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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:22 pm 
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In the past months I've been reading several books, but most of them seem kinda soft-ish(eg. No more Mr. Nice guy),repetitive, or they say things I already know, like duh don't put women on a pedestal and such.

What other books would you recommend me? The ones that teach slight manipulation are welcomed.

I believe I don't have the beta mentality, but I have some slight social anxiety. It's not that I say awkward stuff, most of the time I just don't say much.

I just don't know what to say(to an extend) and how to flirt, unless drunk and on a very good day. I'm from eastern europe, fairly muscular, dominant and decent confidence, just think of the easter European dude stereotype.

When I go out and meet girls I know(the easiest ones to talk obviously), most of the time I think "She knows you for over 2 years,you have common friends, no way you could kiss/bang her, she considers you a friend"


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:18 pm 
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Models by Mark Manson. Read that and make some adjustments. Then go talk to girls.


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Models by Mark Manson. Read that and make some adjustments. Then go talk to girls.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:01 pm 
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You don't need better books. You need experience. There is no book in the world thats going to get you to get off your ass and get out there to do the work. Its just not going to happen.

You guys come her reading thousands of books, asking questions, instead of letting go of the wimpy irrational fears and getting out there yourself to find out what this is like. You've read enough books, now go out and live some life. What is the worst that could happen? You feel uncomfortable and awkward? So you're afraid of a feeling? Thats girly to the core.

Go approach. Don't read another book, or make another post until you approach 100 women.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:40 pm 
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So basically "running our of things to say". I don't have a *book* recommendation, but Sinn's "Conversational Power"(not "Conversational Mastery") or Kezia's 10 Hook Lead System seemed good for giving you an outline of where to go with a conversation.

But to super summarize them it's basically "All people like to talk about themselves. Get them on topics that are important to them. If you have some commonalities, stick with those topics. Speak about charged, emotional topics. And your energy, vibe, tonality, and body language are vastly more important than what you talk about."

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