The true one is "return what you perceive as a favor" , actually i dont want to owe her nothing.
So she give me 1 present i give her 1 present too, help in bills etc ....

"All I can offer is help in reflecting on the situation"

Ok i would like to read what you can say in that situation,
i cut the contact with her completely and i dont know what she doing with her new beta boy.

And i want her back for revenge, not going to go in relationship again with her.
Just want her to chase me back and take revenge.Nothing more


P.S. just come back from my date with 19years old girl, she came with her friend 18 years old ffs.
They speaker to me about threesome if i have before etc and speak about sex most of the time.

I supposed they wanted threesome with me but i dont liked the second girl and make no move.
What you guys think about that?? Why she dont come alone??
She also tell me that she want to do sex with 2 mens one day LOL

In 2 days we close a second date and i want to be powerfull, believe that i will bang her soon

You are all over the place. One minute you say you treat her like shit and the next you say you loved her. One minute its nothing wrong with eating off women, next its you gave her your money. Then this talk of revenge...because she left you after you treated her like shit? Or were you treating her well? I mean, just hearing the story, its so sketchy..."alphas","playboys", "using women" , "friend banging a new chick"....tbh I won't beleive a guy who sees things like you do, WON'T have cheated. If you had asked me who was writing, I'd say an immature 16 year old. And thats not the language barrier, thats because a selfish, childish mindset seeps through. If I had to picture the relationship, I'd think you were a guy beating her, cheating on her, abusing her and using her. And I'm not saying that...but you sound evil tbh..or at the least someone bipolar.

I know alot of it is ego here, but at a certain point, I cant condone your ego if the result is you want to see someone your hurt, hurt again.

You're full of anger. Eventually you'll access the hurt beneath it.

I'm not helping you reap vengeance on anyone.

She's not interested in anything with you, swallow your pride and move on.

The more she sits in your thoughts and you try to engage her, the more hurt you'll experience, she's already moved on you can't do anything about it but do the same.

You're being delusional if you think the way real dudes keep their women around is by being bums who treat them like shit.

It's your choice what you want to be. It's your choice what you are. But for fucks sake, don't come onto us explaining that's what "playboys/puas" do. Because it couldn't be further from the truth.

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Ok i forget about her, i just watch a photo of her in social media and she is totally mess.
I never see her so bad and sh*t, dont want her anymore she is crap

the 19 years old girl sent me msg , want to go in a date today night.
Try to bang her or give some time ??
We only had our first meeting yesterday with he friend 18 years old

Hope said 19 y.o. is at least of the primate species.

Get over that shitty relationship, are you living some kinda delusional universe? Let this one go, talking about her just wasting of time. I know maybe your touhgts are fuckin your brain, but there is only one option is that move on. Rest is nonsense.

If you need a permission what to do about this chick you are the beta guy. I think you know how you fucked up in this thread and you are trying to prove yourself to us how you are awosome. I do not bite it. As long as you think about her, you can not move any further from this crap pit.

My advice is fuck her tonight. But i bet you wouldn't.

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Yeah i failed, she had her friend there again FFS

I used kino in her and i was playfull, invite me to go for coffee with her tomorrow but i said that i am busy and i have no time. She contact me again in facebook and tell me about the coffee again and asked me if i changed opinion about that. I turned down the offer again, want to go somewhere with her only nightime.
So she said me that we can do that in friday...

So i just wait till then and i will make a move, i am a little anxious.

I am just out of longterm relationship , still thinking about my ex and i need to be great at sex with 19 years old girl

All that make me anxious, dont want to go for sex with her and failed.
I need to have very strong boner and need to have great sex with her but with all that
with my ex i am afraid of weak boner or blocked mind and erectile dysfunctions

I heard many friends find themselves with erectile dysfunction after a long term relationship,
dont want this to happen. Already my libido is downhill after all that with my ex

What i can do about that?? And the last time i used condom was 1 years before

I was nice to her , i said what bad boys and playboys do with their girls but i dont do that.
I helped her and i never cheated her the last 15 months, i cheated her only in the first month of our relationship but then i was happy with her , loved her and dont cheated her anymore.

Help in bills and make presents, wanted to marry her and we wanted to have children's.
I am not bipolar but she maybe was.
One day was happy and i was the best and the next day she was angry and i was the worst ever.
The only problem in our relationship was the economical, nothing more. She loved me and I loved her...
She wanted to marry me like crazy, a woman dont want to marry a man if he is not good to her...

You have right, its not nice to want revenge. I just want to forget her now.
Never stolen her money and never abuse her, i am not this type of man.

But think about that, she broke up with me and date other man after only just a week.
You dont do that to a man who wanted to marry you and spend 2 years together.
Everyone would be angry with that

You seem to be in denialBut earlier in this thread, you said thisThis was a great relationship for you, but she clearly thought that you guys weren't a good match because you were rude and you bossed her around. It wasn't only economical. There were personality differences.Yes she broke up with you. What should she do? Sit around and wait for you to be comfortable enough with it so she could see someone else? Get into reality. You don't matter anymore. She's probably wanted someone new for longer than you think and your argument was the best way to get you out and make it your fault. Just move on and quit complaining about what she does. Worry about yourself.

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I even bought to her a diamond ring , she still have it.
She wanted to sent it back but i tell her to keep it because it was a present.

I Wasnt 100% bad or 100% good with her , was something betwin.
I accept my errors and tell her that i am sorry

I insulted her , in this situation i was bad and beta but ok, you cant just end a relationship
in the first difficult situation. Most of the time with her i was a good boyfriend and take care of her...

Maybe i was not the best man but she was also not the best women to me.
The perfect man or the perfect woman dont exist

I asked you here because you guys have experience , but you dont help me.
You just say to forget her, ok if i need this answer i can get it from all average guys and friends out there
or just from myself. All of my friends tell me that she was bad with me and that she was just a bitch

I know that i need to forget her and i will do that, even i will go to date's etc

I just need someone to tell me wtf is going on with that girl . Just for education and help to other mens with the same problem. I will keep you update till the end, still i believe she will show up again in the future and i still believe that her new boy is a type of revenge against me and a rebound relationship

"She's probably wanted someone new for longer than you think and your argument was the best way to get you out and make it your fault."


No just no, she wanted sex and was very good with me that night, she wanted to marry with me 1 week before. It dont make sense .

Yes i was rude with her the last month and bossed her , we have many brawls etc .
The reason for all that?? The economical problem, nothing more

Again...Denial

You need to understand more about relationships. Women will leave you because:

1. No longer attracted to you
2. Would rather be single
3. Wants to trade you in for another guy
4. Doesn't like how they are treated

You can only trace it back to a fight because that's what your mind logically can see. You think because she says things translates to she 100% means it. Do you think a woman would want a husband that can't support her if things get rough? Do you think that she finds that attractive? I guarantee you that she was thinking about breaking up before your fight. You just couldn't see it because you were comfortable because she put up with your shit all of this time.

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You live in your own fiction.

She's done with whatever you guys had, let it go. This is all ego and will hurt you more than anyone else.