So I have no problems getting a date or talking to a girl. Feel like I can hold my own there. The trouble starts when I want to escalate. I have absolutely no idea how. I often just wait until the end of a date when its "expected" and try to lay a kiss on her - this does not work well obviously because there has been nothing leading up to it other than words.

Kino does not come naturally to me - I really need some advice on how to integrate it with a conversation cos at the moment I'd probably just start stroking their arms like a chump with no words to back it up. Just need some ideas on how to get physical without being weird.

Instead of asking here just read book and watch vidoes in internet. Richard la Ruina is one of the best about kinos.
Take it as favor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmZa-dtruFI

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Thanks man. Good stuff there. Would welcome any more suggestions of good resources etc so I can start learning this stuff.

If she is on a date with you? She wants to be there! So assume it! When you get out of the car? Hold your hand out for her to grab, or hold up your arm for her to link? Don't hesitate, 90% will be glad your leading! Even if she says no? You field tested it, everything must be tested, or we don't learn!