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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:23 pm 
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The biggest problem with these compliance test theories(compliance tests by women) is that it's not how attraction works between men and women. If a woman is attracted to a man, one of the things that they absolutely would not do is try to set themselves up in a dominate role and instead try to put themselves in the submissive role. It is counterproductive to feminine attractiveness.
I'd sooner believe that having the frame of a tool is unattractive than that all women are submissive.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:28 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:41 pm 
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If your concern is me not revealing myself, I've done so many times.
I don't know how many of your posts I've read in one thread or another. I have no memory of any anecdote shared from the life of Jack Zero. So you can't be making that much of a habit of it.
That's all fine and dandy. I'm not looking for you to become my biographer. However, when someone questions me I have no problem in giving real examples on how I come to my conclusions.

You are telling a guy to set up a hoop for a girl to jump through as a reaction of the belief of her jumping through hoops. You decided to use the example of something that you wished you would have done. If you didn't add that, I'd assume you were talking from experience even though I would have disagreed with the need of getting her to do something before you did something for her because it's insignificant. I would have disagreed because of my experiences with women have said differently to this point.

If you don't want to answer if this is a real experience or just a belief, that's your choice.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:51 pm 
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The biggest problem with these compliance test theories(compliance tests by women) is that it's not how attraction works between men and women. If a woman is attracted to a man, one of the things that they absolutely would not do is try to set themselves up in a dominate role and instead try to put themselves in the submissive role. It is counterproductive to feminine attractiveness.
I'd sooner believe that having the frame of a tool is unattractive than that all women are submissive.
I've never said that all women are submissive. However, I will say that women that are attracted to a man will usually become more submissive to that specific man when it comes to the courting process. Of course, like in everything, you'll have some exceptions to the rule.

To your point, being perceived as a tool to a woman would be unattractive...so it would be difficult to get a woman to submit to that. On the other hand a man that is attractive to women have more women submitting to him.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:54 pm 
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If your concern is me not revealing myself, I've done so many times.
I don't know how many of your posts I've read in one thread or another. I have no memory of any anecdote shared from the life of Jack Zero. So you can't be making that much of a habit of it.
That's all fine and dandy. I'm not looking for you to become my biographer. However, when someone questions me I have no problem in giving real examples on how I come to my conclusions.

You are telling a guy to set up a hoop for a girl to jump through as a reaction of the belief of her jumping through hoops. You decided to use the example of something that you wished you would have done. If you didn't add that, I'd assume you were talking from experience even though I would have disagreed with the need of getting her to do something before you did something for her because it's insignificant. I would have disagreed because of my experiences with women have said differently to this point.

If you don't want to answer if this is a real experience or just a belief, that's your choice.
Okay.

So give me real life examples of how you came to the following conclusions:
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Some girls aren't comfortable leaving with a guy that they don't know very well, especially at night.
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Most women don't want to hurt your feelings when they don't share the same interest. If they can, they will avoid a direct rejection. That's why flakes happen. Sure, she could have been up front and said "no" or "I'm not interested", but that's just not how things usually work.
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If a woman is attracted to a man, one of the things that they absolutely would not do is try to set themselves up in a dominate role and instead try to put themselves in the submissive role. It is counterproductive to feminine attractiveness.
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A woman that initially finds a man attractive will not make a man jump through hoops. A woman that finds a man attractive will display submissive qualities.
You're wasting all this effort trying to back me into a corner when you know (as everyone does) that if I had a better example of hoop theory than something I wished I'd done then I would have given it.

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I skimmed the last few replies, will write more later, but whats being debated here? That the reason she didnt meet was because he technically did her job for her?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:32 pm 
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So give me real life examples of how you came to the following conclusions:
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Some girls aren't comfortable leaving with a guy that they don't know very well, especially at night.
Outside of bars, clubs, and vacations this is rare. The only girls that I've ever been able to meet in the same day (during daygame) and get them to bounce to an entirely different location are ones that I have gotten to go on an instadate. One particular example was a girl that I met at Universal City Walk a few months back. We hung out for maybe about twenty or thirty minutes and one of her friends had to leave. She gave me her phone number and kept telling me to call her so we could hang out again and wanting reassurances that I would call her. I told her that we could continue to hang out and we could go to the observatory, which we were talking about earlier, and she said she couldn't do it because she wasn't comfortable with the idea of leaving with a guy that she just met. We did end up meeting again a few days later.
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Most women don't want to hurt your feelings when they don't share the same interest. If they can, they will avoid a direct rejection. That's why flakes happen. Sure, she could have been up front and said "no" or "I'm not interested", but that's just not how things usually work.
This was told to me by multiple female friends. Watched it happen to myself and multiple guy friends.
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If a woman is attracted to a man, one of the things that they absolutely would not do is try to set themselves up in a dominate role and instead try to put themselves in the submissive role. It is counterproductive to feminine attractiveness.
I actually dated a feminist for a few months. Outside of her feminist beliefs that she spoke about, she was like just about any other girl. If I wanted a sandwich, she would make it without hesitation. She always would cook and clean up after me. What was cool is that she would always pay her own way for everything. I loved that.
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A woman that initially finds a man attractive will not make a man jump through hoops. A woman that finds a man attractive will display submissive qualities.
All women that I've dated. I don't even need to narrow that down.

You're wasting all this effort trying to back me into a corner when you know (as everyone does) that if I had a better example of hoop theory than something I wished I'd done then I would have given it.
I'm not trying to back you in a corner. If you feel backed into a corner, it's you making yourself feel that way because I said if you didn't want to answer, it's fine.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:20 pm 
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I'm not trying to back you in a corner. If you feel backed into a corner, it's you making yourself feel that way because I said if you didn't want to answer, it's fine.
As I said, you already know the answer. Just say "well since you've only wished you did it...." and get it done.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:34 pm 
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I'm not trying to back you in a corner. If you feel backed into a corner, it's you making yourself feel that way because I said if you didn't want to answer, it's fine.
As I said, you already know the answer. Just say "well since you've only wished you did it...." and get it done.
I wasn't understanding your point when you said it before, so for that I apologize. I didn't get that you were trying to say that it wasn't based on real life experience without outright saying the words.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:49 pm 
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I'm not trying to back you in a corner. If you feel backed into a corner, it's you making yourself feel that way because I said if you didn't want to answer, it's fine.
As I said, you already know the answer. Just say "well since you've only wished you did it...." and get it done.
I wasn't understanding your point when you said it before, so for that I apologize. I didn't get that you were trying to say that it wasn't based on real life experience without outright saying the words.
Dude, really. I respected you until I read that. You can't even show class in victory.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:09 am 
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Dude, really. I respected you until I read that. You can't even show class in victory.
Not that I was looking for respect, I wasn't looking at it as a competition. You're statements didn't make sense to me and I asked questions.

You have to realize that there are a lot of guys on here that give advice that is incorrect advice. They do it and go about there day not realizing that another guy builds this incorrect thinking into their belief system. Then they get frustrated and think that pickup doesn't work.

You can lose respect for me, but I won't lose any sleep over it. I didn't come on here telling someone to try something that I've never done personally. Where was you're respect for the OP?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:31 am 
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Okay. I see that. Sorry for attacking you Jack.

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