The subject title is pretty self explanatory. This is a problem that occurs often enough that I feel a need to come on pua after years of winging it [pun unintended] and building on my natural game. The most recent occurance of this is today and I'm not sure what I should do, if anything. I met this girl, a 9, in my college class. Been building report slowly for the last few classes, through text and snapchat. Yesterday after class we made plans to either hang out this evening or on saturday, depending on when she could get her sister to babysit. I was texting her this morning & afternoon and she said she would find out if she could today when she got home from work at 3:30. She stopped texting me at about 3. I sent 2 texts that went unresponded. In this situation do I a) keep texting her or maybe send her a snap, b) call her (because it's easier to close out over the phone for me than through text) or c) nothing and just wait for her to call?

P.S. This would be our first time hanging out outside of class. And our plans were for her to come over. She seemed excited about it last night at class

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At the end of the day you need to ask yourself, am I a sheep or a wolf?

Did she have time to respond prior to your backup messages?

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a) FUCK NO
b) 1 TIME ONLY
c) BEST ANSWER

Remember she has a kid... I have a lot of exp with this girls and just think about it she has 2 lives she has to manage... they are always like this. Give them time.

Fuck, nothing in life comes overnight!!!

I set up a date with this girl that had a kid on Friday. I told her no. She messaged me today. We have plans to meet tonight.

I said I'd see this other one this weekend, she said yep. Never happened bc I went to meet 2 others. Guess what? Last night she sends me a photo of her in underwear...

I could keep going... maybe you get the point?

Are there certain things I can text to them when it comes to the day of hanging out to secure the plans? Is the main question I have here. I'd like to learn from this thread.

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You're being a sheep. Come on man. Secure/Guarantee? The only guarantee is if you're that worried about this ONE date WITH ONE person is you will be a virgin-perv-creeper forever!

LET ME EXPLAIN: Only a person with no life, no aspirations, nothing on their plate, no goals, no friends, ETC. would ever get that caught up in A DATE! Don't you have a test or some shit to study for? A book to read? A picture to draw? A friend to talk with? A game to play?

PEOPLE by nature are drawn to winners, not losers. By doing what you are you are signaling you're a loser. The best chance you have to get a date with this girl is to not worry about it. I don't even want to associate myself with people who aren't positive, having things going on in their lives, are hard working, thoughtful, educated, etc. never-mind fucking girls!

Okay. The problem I frequently run into is this will happen repeatedly or we'll keep having to reschedule. And I feel like I give them too much power by asking if they wanna make plans more than 2/3 times.
I think I get your point? I think you're trying to tell me you get plenty. I do as well... Probably more than you. But who knows, I don't know you personally my brother. This isn't a dick sizing competition; I'd just really like to lay this one. Tiny waist, cute face and DDD's. Just my type physically.

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At the end of the day you need to ask yourself, am I a sheep or a wolf?

Yes plenty of time. And "backup messages"? Sorry I'm a bit out of the loop.

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At the end of the day you need to ask yourself, am I a sheep or a wolf?

You're seeming like quite the negative person yourself. Yes I have plenty on my plate and plenty of other things to be doing. Hence why I'd rather find out about my plans with this girl before I say fuck her and carry on with my day. Stop trying to demonstrate a higher value than me please sir.
But hey maybe that's my problem. When I have plans, I tend to plan around it and base my day on it.

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DHVing is impossible by typing in an anonymous online forum dude. It's frustrating to see someone asking questions that should be obvious. Esp if you have any exp and read any pickup material whatsoever. By the questions you're asking here, it's near impossible that you have more exp with females than me.

No matter how bad your dick wants it, she will decide if you can have it. Period. There is no way for you to make her see you! That's the nature of game - the healthy thing is to go do something else while you're waiting and not to keep chasing her. That's a sure way to put someone off. She knows your interested, she will see you if she wants/is available/is interested.

I'm trying to get you to see the light by reiterating that this is a normal thing... it's my EXPERIENCE talking. Not ANGER. Every time in the past I have tried to see a woman by spamming her with invites, continuing to talk to her when she doesn't respond, putting things too overtly in the wrong context... IT HAS MADE HER RUN.

I have neglected to read a ton about the game itself. I haven't been practicing any of the techniques or using most of the concepts I learned back in the day. Just plenty of field work. And forgive me for being lacking in the common sense field.

It's quite possible bro. U don't need to be knowledgeable in what you guys consider 'the game' to get laid. I'll just say my number is somewhere between 70-90. I lost track years ago and stopped counting. This isn't why I was posting this thread though. I'm looking for advice to improve my text game.

You're definitely right. The problem is I have too many girls to game through text, that it's easier to just try to make plans relatively early on. I don't have time to be texting multiple women all day. Btw she responded and apologized. Her babysitter is sick. So.. Not tonight. Would you bring up the plans that were mentioned last night about saturday?

On another note there is another girl who I have the same problem with but she's a lot worse. She's an 8/9, depending on who you're asking. She also has a kid. I hung out with her a month ago now. We got drunk and had a good time at her place. My game was completely on point that night. Only reason I didn't fuck her that night was due to her kid. She said she liked me and really wanted to see me again.

And yet every time we've made plans(3/4 times now) she doesn't text me at all the day of. I've just played it cool. We had plans for Valentines Day. She had a hang over. She said she wanted to get a rain check. I suggested today/friday. She said she would see if her friend could babysit. That was yesterday. No text today. She strikes me as a she-player, has too many guys on her plate and I'm not entirely sure how to handle her. I need to somehow DHV over the other guys she talks to. Your response to that would be live my life, and let my lifestyle and game speak for itself, right?

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Let her come to you at that point man. She knows you want to hang out and she knows she's suppose to return a text to inform you of whats going on. Any additional bumps gives you the appearance that you have nothing better to do. Leave it to her.

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If you've made plans and they fall through it is often (though not ALWAYS) due to lack of interest on her part. I'd watch the "babysitter" thing carefully but proceed and see how she reacts for the next date.

A girl being interested a month ago and a girl being interested NOW are two totally different kettles of fish.

When planning dates best to make things easy for HER to make the first couple.