I am now open for AFC's and rAFC's that need advice. I've helped a few people on here getting dates and they're moving on with seduction phase. Just side note: I am still learning PUA as I grow more in the field. Many have read my posts and some may or may disagree what I've written. But those that I helped said my advice drastically changed them for the better.

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if I can't help you which I'll do my best-I'll refer you to one of my mentors Tripp, Zip, xfman, gambler, kezia.

Those guys that I've helped-my mission is for you men to succeed in dating and life in general. You're very welcome and I'll help you guys as well anyone else that needs it. However, I do have one rule that is do not take my advice for granted nor do not go overboard with it.

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Well you kind of already know my story with this girl, and the stuff you told me, well none of it happened but this is what did happen.

I said hey she said hey and immediately asked me if I had facebook, and she told me to look her up, so we made it into a game since I didn't know her last name, slowly gave me a letter from her last name. Anyways we were talking on and off during class negged her a few times.

Now i've added her on facebook, so how do I continue, keep it going. She obviously enjoys my company. I got to take it to the next level, She accepted me but she didn't write a message when she accepted me, meaning I got to go first, so what should I say?

One of the users here (sorry I forgot your name) but said that since I still have class with her I should keep the interaction there since girls tend to lose respect for you if you talk a lot on facebook and not in person. But I did small talk last time. Or neg her of her profile pic or something in her profile.

Furthermore there's definitely a few IOIs I saw

Asking if I had facebook immediately at the start of class after saying hey

Talked about random stuff to me to try to keep a conversation going I guess

invaded my private space as she was leaning towards my computer screen when she was trying to show me something on youtube.

hasn't mentioned a boyfriend

However the one thing i fucked up was I asked her if she was hungry she said no why? And I explained I had to do an all nighter and shit but nothing happened.

Also she said I was random and like you're something else don't know if a mean way or not, but I just played along.

i.e. I'm not random i'm being spontaneous.

I forgot what I said about her other comment but something c&f

Hey bro! Nice to hear from you again. I'm sorry that plan didn't work out well.

yes, there's IOI's there and it's good to talk to her in real life as well as face-book. Be the one to initial convo and the moves-as you'll probably have done that.

You should've said, "Are you hungry?" That gave her the option to reject. You should've said, "Hey, let's go out for coffee after class!" That's if you like coffee. Be the one in control of the situation. You're doing things right man so keep it up. The next time you see her try that one. Don't sound needy or week if she doesn't take it then fuck her. If she does then great. YOu can't loose. Use kino on her as well. Women and people in general loved to be touched. Touch her lightly and try not to startle the girl. Touching her lightly will help her feel more at ease.

Tell me how it went! Peace out!

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hey man, i''ve read alot of your posts, u seem to know what u'r talking about. read my motorcycle opener and let me know if u got any suggestions for me.

What should I say to her on facebook, it can't be hey what's up. I'm thinking of doing the Ben's mother game, but instead of me using my hand for the trick I want to use hers.

I was thinking

Me: "hey I got this trick, no one has been able to figure it out the first try, I want to see if you can"
Her: sure
Me: "okay close your eyes and give me your hand"
*gives her the three coins*
*I tell her the trick*
*she tries to figure it out but probably won't*
*I explain it to her tell her and then say hey lets get some coffee*

The issues I have is how do I touch her hand, and there's a 15 minute break in between the class meaning that she'll probably find it weird that I'll go ask her for coffee after class when I could have asked during the break, also she'll probably remember me asking her to get food/coffee the week before, meaning that she'll obviously know I want to get with her since I already asked before.

The only way I see it is if I game her during the break and the try to phone close in 15 minutes lol.
Thinking about this phone close that I saw on this forum

Me: Man we got to get back to class already, here write something creative
*stares at me blankley*

Me: I'll give you a hint --- --- ----

Thoughts stealth?

Use the Ben's mother's game-sounds interesting! When you ask her to go out during break be direct, frank, sincere, and as well confident. THere may be something wrong with your inner game that's preventing you to be dominate in the situation. However, practice over time of saying, 'Hey, come here." or "Gimme your number so we can hang out sometime." It sounds demanding but I'm in control when I say this. I've # Closes four chicks at work by saying, "let's hang out after work sometime! [sure] Here, gimme your number *gives phone to her* then I'll call you number and save it on your phone." See how I'm in control and that I don't give her options to reject the offer.
I like it but use kino in light subtle way. When I'm at work I could use Kino on almost everyone; a cute customer, managers, employees-why? Because I make it look natural and congruent with my actions. The places of touching her would be her upper arm while talking to her or if she has her elbows bend towards you then touch her elbow. If she's sitting down then touch her wrist when she tosses out a joke and makie it seem like your playfully hitting her. It's playful right? It's natural to touch people and she'll respond by this in two ways: 1) She'll smile and maybe use kino back. 2) SHe'll tell you don't do that but this is only when you did something stupid like held your hand on her for a long time or some shit.

I liked the routine but makes you use kino alot with her. NOT TOO MUCH! Too much will make her also uncomfortable. Use your best judgement and don listen to that damn little AFC voice in your head telling you to stop and she'll hate me for it.9/10 times she won't.
It's not too bad to ask again. Just make sure you're not NEEDY! If you sound like you couldn't care less whehter or not she says yes or no. THe most likely chance she'll say yes. Use kino like I described above. If she says no which I'll doubt it at this time then you're in. Just ask her like a leader would tell his soldiers. Get my drift? Women love leaders because they're powerful and dominant. Hope this answer's your question.
You're trying too hard to game her. You already got signals from her that she likes you and the last thing you want to appear needy or desperate. But first, get her number then go on the meet up during break.

E.G. "I'm going out for coffee after break, come and join me!" Then after coffee date then number close her by telling her, "Let's hang out again sometime! It was really fun!" [Sure\okay\whatever] "Here' gimme you number and save it to my phone. [hand her the phone and let her save it. dial the phone mber and have her save it] and ther you got a #-CLosed. my technique of number closed helped me alot with women.
Thinking about this phone close that I saw on this forum
I thought I was strange! That's not being a leader nor a dominant male more like beating around the bush. SHe'll get highly confused and or she could think's funny or lame or whatever. It's not my style. ALso it soudns like gimme your number and I'll never talk to you again routine. But if you insist then by all means do your way. Better not come with a law suit against me!

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Hey I checked out your opener. It sounds pretty sweet! If a woman next time asks for a ride you have to challenge her by telling her, "Not unless you plan on coming to the bar with me to drink acouple of shots!" If they agree then that's good. If they don't then just fuck them. The whole point is to engage them emotionally to say yes to your offer. So pull them into your frame or reality so to speak. Make them want to come along with you like a initivation to a party.

The opener is a great chance for a instant date. After the date will get you #-close by asking at the end of the event, "It was great talking to you-let's meet up again!" if they say sure, which I think they will. "Great! gimme your number then we def. could chill next time!"

If you don't promise anything for return she'll most likely tell you no or reject your offer. I learned over experience that if you tell her a reasoning or a promise that you'll see her again-she'll be more likely to accept your offer.

Dating is like bargining really. It's a negoiation between two people to meet up again and plan on something more in the future. If you bargin right then you'll get good results. If not tn she'll likely turn you down. Its in a sort of a way like interviewing that I been thinking about lately. Dating is more like a interview to build a connection, and also rapport with each other. However a interview doesn't close with having sex. Only with the reward of you're getting the job which is like F-CLOSING!

Hope this helps.

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Okay different girl on facebook.

I asked her

hey hey, haven't talk to you in awhile. How have you been? First year is almost over how you making out?

And she replied with:

hey everythings been cool.. i actually have a course at (my campus) (friday mornings.. i think i remember you saying something about having fridays off all year long). i love (my campus)! compared to (her campus) of course lol. first year .. could have been better i guess lol. what about you, how did everything work out?

Okay is this an invitation for me to ask her you want to meet up after class. I don't know why she would bring that up unless she was just rambling on.

On her facebook she said she's married to this guy, but then again I highly doubt they are going out, probably a joke on facebook however I'm not sure.

hey i have a couple questions... though i am 18

1. how do you approach a 21 year old women... but you are 18...
2.Spring break is soon where should i sarge??
3.how do u start a conversation then transition into KINO?
4.if a girl is into you how do u start a txt at nite when she tells u to txt her?
5.my good friend has had a makeover and is looking good and is my new wing but another friend wants in but lacks the looks and technique should i include him in our sarges??[/quote]

It seems like a invitation to hang out sometime. It sounds like more of a open-door really. She's giving you IOI's and telling you that she's more likely want to come over to your campus. Women are subtle and won't directly tell you things. They'll give suggestive hints or clues whether or not they like you or not. This is why reading BL is so important and also being able to read a person's tonality. What I've found out is when they're excited talking to you; their voice will pitch higher and faster depending on her current energy. But when you hit that hot zone that makes her gab about whatever. You'll know that's a another IOI.

If a woman wasn't interested in a guy then they'll have slow or normal pace to their voice. It wouldn't flux like a person's interested.

I'm getting far off track here. Write back and tell her that you're INTERESTED in getting to know her and let's meet up at [place X] on [day] at [time]. What this shows is this shows confident and leadership skills. You're leading women which they are following. It's kinda like dancing-men lead the dance and the woman follows.
Bring up about that guy in the profile but don't sound too invasive. Make it humorous and playful as possible. If you say, "You're sooo cool that I would love to take you las vegas and marry you. Have 10 kids; 5 girls and 5 boys. A huge mansion on california hills with a huge ass pool! However, that can never happen since you're married! But you never know I might turn up to be asshole who lets you do the cooking, cleaning, while I play poker with my friends and drink lots of beer; get drunk every night and sleep with almost every girl in sight! ha ha ha! "

Sounds kinda outragious but the thing is you're being playful with her; your taking her on a future adventure with you so she can share with you. After that you're disqualifying yourself from that idea which she'll already feel the emotions behind it and only think of you in her head. Once you've engaged the good feelings with a woman those feeling will stay as longs as the women wants them too. Sometimes emotions are so hardwired that it stays for a longer perioid than you wanted.

P.S. YOu wanna also add hte Ha Ha ha to every ttime you're joking with her. She'll won't get it if you don't do LOL or LMAO or something. Also the sticking out of the tounge which is or =P

GOod luck and tell me h it went man!

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Yo so I screwed up, long story short

I said hey gimme your number and something happened and I ended up giving mine, she was like just give me yours and I did and said she'll call me when she gets in the car, obviously that did not happened. I negged her, small talk her and use a little bit of kino, like the light punch to the shoulder after I negged her,

I don't know what happen.

So what should I do next week, is there anyway to salvage it or should I sit beside someone else next class?

Stealth said he was taking a break, so his thread will be locked until he requests it unlocked.

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