First off I know I need to go out more.

Like everyone I do get AA but I have been in sales before and honestly have been working on my Anxiety for close to 5 years before I even knew anything about PUA. So I don't mind the approach too much although I prob. puss out of 50% of my approaches. That being said I lock in on about 20 so end up with about 10 approaches a night. Yeah I know its still not enough.

So my question is about night club game: It seems to be the hardest of them all btw.

I gravitate toward the be honest approach and a few times I've gotten the attention of some nice hotties. To my surprise. But what I need to work on is this. About mid way through the conversation I tend to lose them. Its really frustrating cuz I'll be talking, I try light contact like touch her shoulder when I laugh. She responds with a smile. Seems like the set is going well. But more often than not something will happen and she will all of sudden excuse herself or give me the polite brush off.

Any tips?

What do you mean by "Honest" approach?

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I think he means a direct approach. I'm thinking the phrase: "to my surprise" might have something to do with it.

Yes basically direct and NOT using a bunch of gimmicks. I don't know... what do you all think? I've been reading the book "models" if that helps.

If you're approaching, they're showing interest and then you're losing them...it could be so many things. My question is why do you think they were interested in the first place? Even better would be to provide an example.

The thing that I keep seeing in your original post that makes me wonder is that you laugh, light touch, and her response is a smile. This makes you think things are going well. I don't see it that way (this being because I'm strictly going with what you wrote). The reason being that if a woman finds you attractive normally she would take every opportunity to laugh at what you say. So at this point, I'm not sure if she's ready for your light touch on the shoulder. Keep in mind that she knows why you're there talking to her and the light touch on the shoulder isn't yet welcome, so she bolts. Kino does build attraction, but the initial attraction has to be there before it works.

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Hum, U never know. I could be missing the Kino signals. I'll research it a bit and try to hold off on the escalation until I'm more sure.

Gotta be something with your body language or facial expressions going on. Maybe you realize the girl is really in to you and your demeanor changes? I dunno... I'd really have to see you in person.

10 girls a night is enough though. There's no need to be spammy. Work on gathering intel (and remembering details) about each of your "leads" for the night.

Most times, girls will stay at the same bar all night. Or at the very least, in the same part of town. Keep working the 10 girls you've got. You can always reapproach. It gets difficult to remember names after too many long interactions and if you forget a girls name... You can pretty much forget about fucking her too.

What you might want to try doing is getting out before things start to get stale. Say you've gotta go find your friends or you've gotta go to the bathroom. Then go talk to a few more girls and come back. If it's 10:30 and you've got some girl you're talking to, she's not gonna go home with you right away nor are you going to want to baby sit her all night. (If she wants to come with, ignore what I just said.) Go let some interesting shit happen to you then come back to her to tell her about it. Makes things flow nicer and you won't have so many awkward spots.

Escalate, escalate, escalate.

Less convo, more escalation. None of that "light contact shit".

Put your arm around her, pull her close, whisper in her ear. Of course, you look at her facial expression each step of the way, and figure out whether you get the green lights.

But nightclubs are NOT the place to have "conversations" unless it's about where you two are going next (Answer - to your place).

10 approaches should be more than enough to find 1-2 girls who will be receiving of your escalation.

For me, nightclub game is actually the EASIEST because it generally allows you to become more sexual much more quickly than a daytime environment. Many women are out there LOOKING for an "adventure" and you just have to be willing to give it to them!