Ok, here's the quick break down. I am working on a construction job and for the first time approached a girl and got her number. I have never approached a girl for her number. NEVER! I was passing her on the street and asked, "how's it goin?" I recieved a long smile and continued a few steps when suddenly my head said "f this" and I went back across the street and called her over. We talked a minute and I probably asked a lot of boring things.(work,where you live,etc) I noticed she smiled a lot though. So the following week she was walking past my job site again and we saw each other. She says, "I don't remember your name." I tell her and walk her 2 blocks to talk. We small talked for a short while on the street corner and she was again smiling really big. Maybe she is just a "smiler" but she had a little giggle and posture that told me different. Being we were both working and tight on time I just asked, "you wanna hang out some time?" Response, "sure." Simple. So I call her and leave a message. It's been 3 days and no call back. I plan on calling her again but any tips on how to play this one out would be greatly appreciated. If I am going to f it up, I may as well learn something while doing it.

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Great post by Tyler Durden which strays from the conventional thoughts on phone conversations.

It's insightful because it changes the focal lens through which you view phone game. This helps your inner game and your outer game. You become less concerned with fictitious freeze-outs and soon begin to realize they are just acting like normal people.

Let me know what you think

Wow that article was very interesting. It definitely was a confidence booster for the situation I'm in right now (see No Phone Service)

That Tyler Durden article was intersting. I didn't think using a 19yr old female was the best choice of an example but good points were made. My update is:
I never got a call for 2-3 days but I remember this girl said she has 2-3 jobs so I figure she is busy. So Monday morning I text her a joke. For some reason, only part of the text goes through. She text me back 8hrs later with, "there was no punch line." My phone was in my car on the charger so I didn't get the text until the following morning(yesterday). Rather than text her I call back and there is no answer. (probably working) I just say I don't know where the text went messy so I'll tell her when we talk and have a good day. No call back. I am a little confused. I know the 2 times we've talked on the street there is an extreme attraction. All these stories we read about guys missing opportunities just by not "seeing" what signals he's recieving, well I f-ing saw SAW a few and this is my first time. This means a lot because I am the guy who is BLIND to these things. I think this chick might have a bf or is hiding something. I know I'm hiding something so what gives I wonder? Like I said, when I approached her twice on the street there was a lot of attraction otherwise my confidence would not have been as strong. I text her last night, "you seem like a hard working busy lady, what are your hrs like and what is your favorite song?" No reply yet. I felt this may have been a bit overkill to do at this time but I cannot persue this further unless she shows more interest. I have a lot at stake on my own end and really, it doesn't matter if this turns her off. I really want to get to know her, I want to bang her and be friends but this is not a perfect world. I hope this helps some readers and any criticism/advice would be great. It helps all of us.

After reading your situation (and going through it too many times myself!), I would say just to move on. Not to be discouraging, but if a girl really wanted to meet, she would make a good effort to do so.

Girls give their numbers out all the time --> maybe they are too nice to say no, or just to boost their own self-confidence. Although I am still relatively new I get a good amount of numbers. Most of them will not return calls, or just flake so it is really important to create a sense of attraction when you first meet (still trying to figure that out myself). I figured out that this whole pua stuff is a numbers game. The no's are guaranteed, but so are the yes's.

Just keep going out and approach as many people as possible. Once you get so many numbers that it gets out of hand, no one number will make you upset because you can just call the next girl! And this indifference will be all the more appealing for a HB. Good luck with everything!

Tomorrow is my last day on my job site so she'll likely walk by. If by chance I see her I just plan on letting her know I knew her beautiful smile was too good to be true. I just figure f-*k it at this point. I read someone elses post where they said something about 10,000 days to live 12,000,000 women to screw. AMEN! I got vagina right now so this girl is being too difficult or wants more of an effort which in my opinion is BS!

I'd figure an update on this one might be useful to some people. We're all here to help each other out right? So the chick didn't walk by my job site. It killed me inside because I could not have the last word. (I have to have the last word in many situations) Here this chick gives me her number, texts once, never returns calls and then doesn't walk by the job site? BS! I was going to let her know she blew it. So I call and leave a message telling her to let me know when she is going to be near the job site. No call back. BS I say! I text her, "You forgot our Thursday date. I knew that beautiful smile was to good to be true. I'd like to talk and chill but your too shy....in cute way." I get a text back immediately saying, "not shy, just very busy. It's a long shot but I got 30mins and I am two blocks away." I call, we chill for 30mins and I find out how busy she really is with work. She tells me I talk a lot, I have ADD and I am very interesting. I do know she is hiding something. Maybe from the past or now but in any case, this chick might be a succubus. My attraction for her dropped a little but as a person she seems like someone I could be friends with. I'll keep this updated and hopefully someone gets a laugh out of it or some sort of help.

Welcome to the forum SF1981. I will just say one thing about this girl. Be careful.

But, then again, you said you had something to hide too, so . . .