Ok so I've been trying to get a girlfriend and everything seems to go well until she wants to go out to dinner somewhere..

Let me give you just a little background on me and on what I usually do so you guys can get a better idea of how this goes. I don't really have a problem with attracting and solidifying dates and what not so that's covered but I usually have bowling or movie dates (at my house) which don't require a ton of talking and when there is talking the girl does a lot of it and I'll do the minimum to keep the convo fun and going. But for some reason on dinner dates I can't keep the convo going and interesting enough and it always fizzles out and creates a lot of awkward silences which I HATE but the problem is my brain just can't think of what to say! I'm good looking (not trying to brag) I have an attractive style but I feel like I just Don't have the personality to complete the package!

I used to have a really bad daily, multiple times a day, weed and porn problem which I believe has fried my dopamine receptors over the years and that contributes to some of my anxiety/depression and general not being able to think of interesting/clever things to say, in recent years.. I am currently 54 days without porn or fapping (yes I'm a nofapper) and a few days no weed so far, I also lift weights 4-5 days a week. I feel half beta half alpha! Hence my username.

In this new particular case I've already set the "relationship frame" I guess you could say, with this current hb8 and I know she's looking for a relationship too. This girl is not stuck up she's actually a lot different from most girls and I'm liking her a lot. We have not had sex yet just some fooling around but I know she will want to have sex after this date which is Saturday in two days. Ijust don't want this one to fizzle out.. Can you guys give me any tips / routines / ways to make her laugh / and just ideas that'll make her want to continue seeing me? I don't want to become that guy that can't keep a convo going at dinner and make it awkward again.

I apologize if this isn't in the right forum but I didn't think it was fit for the relationship section since I'm not actually in one yet. (First time poster)

Any help is much appreciated thanks guys!

Play to your strengths my bro. If dinner dates don't work for you (and who do they really work for any way, they SUCK ASS, you are sitting across from the girl like a job interview and filling your bellies, it is a lame outing for a guy with a girl he hasn't gotten with yet), then structure your meetings to what you are best suited for.

If you must go out to dinner with this girl (ugh) then somehow have it so that you two are sitting right next to each other. Still it's gross, you're stuffing your faces and you haven't had sex yet. Awkward much.

Go out and bloat out on lobster .................................................. AFTER the two of you have had sexy time. Then it's the most natural and enjoyable thing there could be.

Just listen to her. Guys worry way to much what to say next, stop thinking about it and instead LEARN to listen. Girls give a lot of material to go on with.

"PRO tip" (hahaha) I've seen this in pulp fiction. Travolta and Thurman were having a dinner, and that awkward silence came in. And then, Thurman asked John what he thinks about uncomfortable silences. Next time, ask your girl what she thinks about it?

It's simple and it works for me.

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Use canned material.

Yes, just use canned material for the diner date, stories; invented or otherwise. The reason this will work is this, you might not feel anything special about the stories however for a person who is hearing it for the first time, they are greatly entertaining. that will help loosen the mood and loosen you up.
I take it you like her enough to make the effort or learning the material, and then learning to deliver the material.

Best of luck buddy,

... No.

I'm not a fan of dinner dates until I've already slept with the girl. If I do go on a dinner date, I will sit next to her so we can be more intimate and escalate with each other. It's much more causal, fun and low pressure to go for drinks.

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As has already been implied and said, she should be talkative (about annoying things like her cat), while you listen, and so into you that she can't wait to see you and suck you off. A major concern is that you have spent more than 2 days with her and have not had sex. Conventional explanation: she does not see you sexually, and may be seeing you as her beta orbiter/punk who pays for dinners. You are dreading the restaurant (again) because your wallet is getting smaller.

What should have happened at these "dinner dates" is this and your hand between her legs:


and immediately this if not shortly thereafter:


Conventional explanation for getting out of friend zone: go to the boring restaurant setting (I prefer a romantic setting like a botanical garden or cool planetarium), pretend to talk for 5 minutes, and grab her for a kiss, "I can't help myself around you," and take her in the lavatory. If this does not seem plausible in your mind, don't even bother.

Unconventional explanation: this is 2016. Women are branch swingers, swinging from one larger wallet to another. There is no such thing as a woman, who wants a "relationship." Women are resource extractors. Women will not love men the way men want to be loved. Put her to work by making her justify herself and prove that she is ready to take care of you emotionally by having sex with you. Maslow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27 ... y_of_needs

As some of the fellas will say, you are not at the point of girlfriend management. Ask yourself if this is the quality of attention you want or if your desires would be better served elsewhere.

Buying a woman dinner who has yet to prove herself to you is a bad idea. I suggest you read the following as showering a woman with dinner and gifts is a mistake a lot of guys make.

http://www.guycodeacademy.com/dont-buy- ... -and-gifts

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Thanks guys, a lot of good info here I really appreciate it!