Real simple. If you try to continuously introduce a sexual frame into a conversation but the girl keeps reinforcing that she is a good girl and doesn't really do that, or is uncomfortable talking about it, generally speaking, is this more of a sign of disinterest/lack of physical attractiveness in you vs. ASD?

Hey bro.

When a girl tells me this, I normally say that I disagree with her and tell her that there isn't something like a good girl and a bad girl/slut but rather different girls going through different phases in their lives. That it's a difficult and dangerous world for women to navigate her sexual desires because her reputation is at stake. You can rant a little about how it's biased that men are encouraged to be sexually promiscuous but women aren't because in the society we live in judge women by what she is willing to trade sex for (eg. Because she likes it VS if she is getting commitment and relationships out of it).

This demonstrates that you are part of the "secret society" that knows that women enjoy sex and is *SHOCK HORROR* actually psychologically and physiologically good for them.

A lot of time this, ASD or LMR means that she doesn't want to take responsibility for it and needs the plausible deniability (I had some wine and it just happened or I said that I wasn't that type of girl but we went back to my house/his house and it just happened)
There are other things that can play to your advantage too such as where you sit when on a date in relation to her, how much legitimate touch opportunities you have and how well you touch her.

Answer to your question, presumably she is out on the date with you at night having drinks, your approach was tight enough to get her out so obviously she was attracted to you! You just need to take more responsibility for the seduction (lead lead lead, but know the difference between a hard no and a soft no) and then also demonstrate that you are not going to judge her if she has sex with you fast.(she could also be inexperienced sexually) Try the questions game (If you were an animal what would you be, favourite part of your body, craziest place you've ever had sex etc etc)


I hope it helps bro!!

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Have you actually had success with blatantly explaining it to your target like that? I'm getting really good at building attraction and comfort and understand plausible deniability, but I don't know the best way to convey the non judgemental frame. Like I said, do you say it out right just like that? Because it seems to 'logical' Is it betting to tell some sort of story about a hookup or something that doesn't display your judgment?

If shes pushing back on the sexual frame then back off it, build more attraction, calibrate and then re-egage the sexual frame. If that doesn't work you are either in for a long ride or you should abandon ship.

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Have you actually had success with blatantly explaining it to your target like that? I'm getting really good at building attraction and comfort and understand plausible deniability, but I don't know the best way to convey the non judgemental frame. Like I said, do you say it out right just like that? Because it seems to 'logical' Is it betting to tell some sort of story about a hookup or something that doesn't display your judgment?[/quote]


It's the ultimate frame control man, "breaking the 4th wall"(call out the seduction, it's high risk high reward though). I've had plenty of success like that because by understanding that women need sex because it's good for them and conveying it to the girl means you understand that it's difficult to navigate her sexuality in this type of society and she is doing it because she is afraid of her reputation being ruined by being labeled a slut when she has fast sex. You are telling her "I know and I don't judge".

You are not literally saying "hey girl, I dont judge you if you fuck me fast" but rather telling her your views that convey that message more subtly.

If she comes out on the date she knows that it is romantic (unless you used snake seduction then shame on you!) but she wants to test you to see if you are actually who you say you are. So don't look at it as a secret operation only you know about and you are going to trick her into bed but rather a mutual seduction. That way if you "break the forth wall" by calling it out to re-gain the frame it's not something forbidden but rather you not hiding your intent (and your dick figuratively ofcourse )

I hope that makes sense. Check the links below



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E ... re_complex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_wall

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Yo bro,

lol.

Can you tell us how old is the girl and how old are you?

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