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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:20 am 
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Although I think Warped's points are hyperbolic and reasoning is off, I agree with his message/what he is trying to push. The average guy on Tinder...yeah he's doomed if he hopes to get hot girls. The average guy at the bar, yeah, he's doomed if he hopes to get hot girls. But when in history has the average guy had a shot with girls out of his league? Cold approach/stranger game is tough...but its not the game that 99.99% of the men in the world play. The big reason I dislike the term AFC is because it's average frustrated chump. The average guy is not really frustrated when it comes to women and relationships. The average guy has a decent enough social circle where he meets women through friends, dates some, hooks up with some, and marries one eventually. He may not be slaying chicks at the bar on the weekends, but he goes through life with relationships and some options.

The fallacy is that most guys who get into pickup, are average. Typically they're not. They have crappy social circles, they stay in and play video games, so they must get into pickup to have the options that the average guy has from just hanging with friends. So, is the average guy doomed? No...women will continue to hook up, date and be gf to mostly guys they meet through their social circle or work. Sure, online dating is increasing, but the proportion of attractive girls to unattractive ones are skewed more in favor of unattractive or less attractive, just because an attractive girl with a decent enough social life typically doesnt go online. When it comes to cold approach though, the average guy doing cold approach has to stand out, as Warped says. But this has always been the case. Women are more picky when it comes to strangers approaching them. Almost every female friend I've ever had, I've watched them shoo away guys at the bar, for reasons like he wasnt hot enough, or ripped enough. Then a couple of mths later I meet her new bf who is average looking, scrawny...who she met through a friend.

Cold approach is a tough game. If you're avg and meeting her through social circle or work, you have ALOT more leeway. If you're avg and meeting her at the bar after 5 other guys have approached her, you have no leeway. You DO have to stand out and step up your shit, but not because of the community, but because that's just the nature of stranger game.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:28 pm 
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ChocolatePUA is talking sense.

Do you even go out or actually hang with girls lol?

99% of guys don't know what the fuck they're doing.

The fact that this community exists hasn't changed that. Because most of the coaches are shambles anyway.

And, information is not application... most guys will not have the stamina to get good in this game.

To completely dismiss your post... One thing I've tried quite a lot lately is dressing down...

If guys are wearing smart shirts and blazers in a venue, I will roll in with my hair all over the place wearing a plain T-shirt and Jeans...

It's that natural vibe that's important.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:55 am 
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Average looking men perceive this reality given to them by the media that the average man is supposed to be fit as hell, drive cool cars, and have sex with lots of beautiful women. When this reality does not just come to fruition like it does so easily in what is presented to them, these guys do one of four things: retreat into the hatred of all women just in pure spite (Red Pill), give up on themselves completely and fall into a deep depression, let their anxiety run their lives, or take their mouth off their mothers tits and live their lives the way they want to with virtually no regard for what people think. The brutal truth is that only a small amount of men do the latter and at least TRY to succeed than men who fall to their anxiety.

To conclude, most, if not all, women in this society are not looking for a "nice guy" anymore. "Nice Guys" are obsolete, being taken over by a more superior male that exceeds well in a successful career, physique, and is free from any mental health disorders in his life. This also transfers over to women wanting healthier offspring. I think the main point is to stop working FOR women by giving women virtual power over you (ie: "Why hasn't she texted me back?!?!?") and instead make women work for YOU. Easier said than done, though...
Hang on a minute. RP men do not hate women. I will agree that there are often posts about women that cast women in a negative light, however, they are usually to highlight the importance of a man asserting his role as a man and how one or many have failed to do so have led to the issues men have with women. The problem is there have been a lot of people that don't really understand RP that try to turn it into bitch fest, borderline Elliot Whatever-his-name was. RP men do exactly what you say in the latter part of that first sentence: be a man by taking their mouth off their mother's tits and live their lives the way they want.

To expand on that, RP men don't play the nice guy as you go on to mention. The goal is to get laid while as we work to be the superior male that exceeds well in a successful career and physique. RP men do not work for women, we are working on ourselves while observing the state of society, and we are bucking the trend of feminization by embracing our masculinity. As you can see, a lot of what RP is about lines up with what you believe men or PUAs should do.

Anyway, back to the OP. I agree that you have to be more than average; however, it really depends on what it is that you focus on. As Manson's Models explains, you have to be polarizing. Sure, everybody's dressed nice, but is their game sharper than most men? Do they have loads of money in the bank? Do they drive a badass car? Do they have a sense of style that sets them apart from the rest? Do they have a huge cock? Whatever. There has to be something about you that has to be different than others.

Whatever it is you have, whether it's one thing or a combination, it has to be able to tip the scales in your favor.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:40 am 
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To me, however you see things is how things are going to be. If you believe that really attractive women and sex is scarce now, then that's the web you're spinning. If on the other hand, you see yourself as scarce and unique, when you look around you'll notice the ways in which you seem to stand out from the crowd. By putting emphasis on those traits, you naturally create value. You pique attention and interest which subsequently means you have value. Sure, even 7s have 30 guys orbiting tjem like planets do the sun, but what they try to look for amongst the zombie horde of text messages, is value. When you have too much of something, it becomes less value. If there's 20 well dressed guys in a room and one female, the one guy who is slightly better dressed, or another trait such as one that is lacking in that moment (e.g.
socialibilty in such a competitive environment) has the best chance of getting the girl. Right?

So yes, there's a lot more competition and subsequently a lot harder to seduce women (your words not mine) but evolution is based on the premise of "survival of the fittest" and "adaptation". If 100 guys are negging, be the one guy who compliments (think Ideal Lover from Robert Greene's Art of Seduction). When all are zigging, you zag. The game will always evolve and adapt to current circumstances.

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