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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:17 pm 
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I see a pattern of neediness in your relationships based on some of your posts way back in 2010 and a great difficulty moving on. You got very solid advices in the past and yet you persisted with your neediness and depression for quite a long time (+6 months).

Ironically, the advices that you got before were THE SAME as what all of the regulars here have given, except perhaps, for my advice that you should workout to jack up your endorphins and testosterone. This advice isn't unique either. Heywood gives the same advice to guys who are depressed in some other threads.

We have already given you the advices that you need even way back 2010 OP.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:55 pm 
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Honestly, I do think I am depressed deep down and she is a distraction from that.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:22 pm 
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Come on now, quit being a chode. Get to work.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:04 pm 
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What is the source of this depression?


Because your source of happiness is the girl, you are not living in your reality.


Instead you're drawn to her reality, and you are so dependent on her that this is borderline pathetic to discuss anymore. Sorry OP.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:00 pm 
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What is the source of this depression?


Because your source of happiness is the girl, you are not living in your reality.


Instead you're drawn to her reality, and you are so dependent on her that this is borderline pathetic to discuss anymore. Sorry OP.
I dont know, I find myself really upset a lot of the time and down. I play soccer at a high level but it doesn't engage me anymore, I am not always looking forward to it. She is so independent, she even tells me she would be fine without me, that it just makes me crave her attention more I guess. I am more concerned about her social life then my social life I guess. Its made me super down and depressed, and I feel like I have been this way for quite a while now.

Obviously, as I guess I have been told before, there is a deeper route to my problems than just this girl. I seek approval I guess, I dont know how to fix this. It seems like it would take months.


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What is the source of this depression?


Because your source of happiness is the girl, you are not living in your reality.


Instead you're drawn to her reality, and you are so dependent on her that this is borderline pathetic to discuss anymore. Sorry OP.
I dont know, I find myself really upset a lot of the time and down. I play soccer at a high level but it doesn't engage me anymore, I am not always looking forward to it. She is so independent, she even tells me she would be fine without me, that it just makes me crave her attention more I guess. I am more concerned about her social life then my social life I guess. Its made me super down and depressed, and I feel like I have been this way for quite a while now.

Obviously, as I guess I have been told before, there is a deeper route to my problems than just this girl. I seek approval I guess, I dont know how to fix this. It seems like it would take months.


Don't worry about it. I had similar problems and I believe I talked about them on this forum too, some guys that replied to you also helped me.


One thing you are right, it will takes months. What I realized it's that my ex was just like your GF now, telling me stuff like that and making me feel worthless. I was comparing every aspect of my life with hers and I lacked in every one of them also.

After I dumped her (and this is true) I began to engage myself more on self development, it's extremely interesting and satisfying. I started to believe that I'm worth something, slowly, step by step you will notice this progress too (but it takes time, you are evolving).

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on this forum talked (can't remember it 100%) that everything begins with your though, in your mind, they become actions, action become habit and habit becomes character (someone correct me if I said something wrong).

Anyway OP, if you are serious about changing your life, starting from now you wont reply to this thread anymore. You got a PROBLEM, and now it's time to solve it. Go read books, posts, do your training and stop being a whiny little...

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:38 pm 
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It takes 30 seconds to break up with this girl. That's the first step. There is no scenario where this relationship works or can be salvaged. She beats you...she doesnt deserve more than a text message saying its over and you're blocked. Heck you can just block her and work on your shit. But it starts with ending this relationship.


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Thumbs up for neo.

End it, before it ends you.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:40 am 
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Wow, so this tread is still alive.

Honestly, OP, I don't know what the fuck you want from us. I don't even know why people are telling you she's being a disrespectful jackass.
You can't be disrespectful towards someone who deserves no respect in the first place. She simply treats you as you are, a doormat.
And you're right about one thing. You're not beta. You're an absolute omega.

I get it though. She completely pussified you. I also get how you're horrified by the idea that you won't find someone better - which for fucks sake, I can't find a single quality in this woman's behavior towards you - but what I don't get is why the fuck do you not want your life to improve?

You think sprints in the park will do it? or lifting weights? For fucks sake, you have a toxic, cancerous entity sucking the life out of you on a daily basis and you think a haircut will make it all better? Are you retarded?

Also her arguments are cherry picking at it's finest. You don't have to be a genius to turn everything in your favor. And the sex thing is just sad. How often would you say you have it?

Bottom line is this:
You are a pathetic excuse for a man, and I'm ashamed we share the same gender. Accept that. That's what you've become. Not shed this drama queen persona of being oh so fucking helpless and understand it's gonna be tough, but worth it.

How in the world would a high level soccer player ever have problems getting girls? You're capable of more than you know. You idiot.

PS: Sorry for the tough love, but 7 pages of conventional advice obviously didn't do much for your condition. You need to understand the gravity of your situation. You're throat-deep in a pile of shit and all you need to do is just get your ass up and come join us in what a man's life should look like.

I was having some drinks with my friend last night and he asked me if I know that feeling when you can't spend one hour of Game of Thrones episode with your girl without having her start grinding her ass, waving her hands, blabla, basically constantly pester you for sex. I do know that feeling. It's a good problem to have OP, and I'm assuming it's a problem you also want in your life. But this? having to beg your gf for sex? that's no way for a man to live.

We're here to support you through this, but you have to want it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:22 am 
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I was having some drinks with my friend last night and he asked me if I know that feeling when you can't spend one hour of Game of Thrones episode with your girl without having her start grinding her ass, waving her hands, blabla, basically constantly pester you for sex. I do know that feeling. It's a good problem to have.
This reminds me.

Since I'm in college I don't have living room (which actually makes things a hell of alot easier) and every time I invite girl for a movie we lay together in bed. But fuuuuuuck... How did I forget to download the movie?

So, it takes 15 minutes for movie to be complete while in the meantime she's either half or altogether naked. Then I push her off saying she needs to stop because we went too far (in joking way) and that we should watch a movie.

I never watch a movie when I invite a girl over for a movie (expect when we go to theater because I'm fnatic about theaters).

P.S. Can't wait for hateful eight :D

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Haha, that song, made me laugh.

We spoke via facebook, I will just show you her replies, honestly, this is what she has said:

I chose not to talk about that part of it because you were literally so far in the wrong and you just don't see it. All I said was I don't want to have sex and you blew up, like you alway do. You tried 10 different ways to touch me like can I just give you a massage etc. every single time I say I don't want to have sex you find some way to get mad at me and blow up, making it even less likely we will. But you will never learn and that's just how it's going to be

I don't want to talk to you rn
You can apologize for being a forceful dick who expects his girlfriend to have sex with him whenever they are alone and then gets mad at her when she said she doesn't want to.
Or you can keep trying to convince me this is my fault
I would love to see how you spin that

It is a big deal because it has happened so many ducking times and you don't learn
You need to realize how serious this is

Then after me replying about the day, her parents patrolling, she said:

I saw the whole fucking day, I know that they were around but that's why I was back home, to spend time around them so that they have no excuse to say no you can't be around. I know they want to spend time with me they just don't plan anything and so it is up to me to make that effort. I can tell they are really trying to be supportive and accepting of our relationship but you have to realize neither of them had what we had at my age. They didn't bring their boyfriends or girlfriends to sleep over, they didn't have anything like that around their parents. I can tell my mom isn't super okay with it but deals with it instead of pushing me away and making me go behind their back. Same with my dad, but he is more okay with it. My mom will always and has always been weird with relationships, I have tried to be open with her, it doesn't work. I get that you felt like she wanted you to leave but when I asked my dad if you could stay he didn't even hesitate. He was totally fine with it. Obviously he didn't fill in my mom so that made it uncomfortable. When I left the room and you went back to say good night, my dad obviously felt like you were saying goodbye and got confused as he just said you could stay. There are things that no matter what I do, are still going to make you and me uncomfortable when around them, get used to it. In the bathroom when you tried to kiss me both times I was brushing my teeth or popping my spots, I wasn't mad at you for trying to kiss me I just couldn't at the time. And of course I told you to get your cold hands off of me i was warm and you can warm your hands differently. I can't believe you thought that was even worth bringing up. Yes your face hurt me when we were kissing and I told you that so that you knew not to rub your face against mine as you often do. You said you would be careful and that was fine, no problem. Me saying that is not being rude it's telling you something to be aware of so that you don't hurt me. I don't mind if you put in effort to try and have sex with me, that's fine. The problem is when you react to something not going your way. I simply said I didn't want to have sex and you tried several ways to Try and convince and coerce me to. Then for the next 10 minutes you talked about how rude I was to everyone and how I was with my mom and things that literally had nothing to do with having sex. You need to first start not freaking out when I say no, and then if you get upset, to not let that fuel your anger about other things. Learn to be quiet about it, and if it is still a problem when you have calmed down, then you can calmly bring it up, or forget about it cause it isn't a big deal.



She is fucking good, honestly, and this is what im fucking dealing with. By the way, im not some beta dude, I do joke around, cock slap her, slap her ass, im a joker and have always had girls after me but obviously tripped and fell over this one. What do you think about what she said?
You know, reading this, I really am wondering if a big part of the problem is actually you.

It seems like you went over by her house, which was a big step for her and her parents to accept, and she simply wasn't comfortable having sex with you there. Instead of discussing it rationally, you became passive aggressive, and it seems you have a rather passive aggressive streak.

Last time I slept over by my girlfriend, I decided to NOT have sex. Because I respected that, at least for the first time, we should let them be comfortable without them hearing any sex moans across the hall.

You obviously need to open up the lines of communication with your girlfriend. Talk about your issues in a positive way, without trying to cast blame or point fingers. Talk to her HONESTLY about your issues and come to a COMPROMISE.

You also need to be less fucking needy. If your own girlfriend turns you down, then the right thing to do isn't to pester her again for sex. You need to SHOW her that you aren't needy, that you're ok without it, and make her come to you.


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Haha, that song, made me laugh.

We spoke via facebook, I will just show you her replies, honestly, this is what she has said:

I chose not to talk about that part of it because you were literally so far in the wrong and you just don't see it. All I said was I don't want to have sex and you blew up, like you alway do. You tried 10 different ways to touch me like can I just give you a massage etc. every single time I say I don't want to have sex you find some way to get mad at me and blow up, making it even less likely we will. But you will never learn and that's just how it's going to be

I don't want to talk to you rn
You can apologize for being a forceful dick who expects his girlfriend to have sex with him whenever they are alone and then gets mad at her when she said she doesn't want to.
Or you can keep trying to convince me this is my fault
I would love to see how you spin that

It is a big deal because it has happened so many ducking times and you don't learn
You need to realize how serious this is

Then after me replying about the day, her parents patrolling, she said:

I saw the whole fucking day, I know that they were around but that's why I was back home, to spend time around them so that they have no excuse to say no you can't be around. I know they want to spend time with me they just don't plan anything and so it is up to me to make that effort. I can tell they are really trying to be supportive and accepting of our relationship but you have to realize neither of them had what we had at my age. They didn't bring their boyfriends or girlfriends to sleep over, they didn't have anything like that around their parents. I can tell my mom isn't super okay with it but deals with it instead of pushing me away and making me go behind their back. Same with my dad, but he is more okay with it. My mom will always and has always been weird with relationships, I have tried to be open with her, it doesn't work. I get that you felt like she wanted you to leave but when I asked my dad if you could stay he didn't even hesitate. He was totally fine with it. Obviously he didn't fill in my mom so that made it uncomfortable. When I left the room and you went back to say good night, my dad obviously felt like you were saying goodbye and got confused as he just said you could stay. There are things that no matter what I do, are still going to make you and me uncomfortable when around them, get used to it. In the bathroom when you tried to kiss me both times I was brushing my teeth or popping my spots, I wasn't mad at you for trying to kiss me I just couldn't at the time. And of course I told you to get your cold hands off of me i was warm and you can warm your hands differently. I can't believe you thought that was even worth bringing up. Yes your face hurt me when we were kissing and I told you that so that you knew not to rub your face against mine as you often do. You said you would be careful and that was fine, no problem. Me saying that is not being rude it's telling you something to be aware of so that you don't hurt me. I don't mind if you put in effort to try and have sex with me, that's fine. The problem is when you react to something not going your way. I simply said I didn't want to have sex and you tried several ways to Try and convince and coerce me to. Then for the next 10 minutes you talked about how rude I was to everyone and how I was with my mom and things that literally had nothing to do with having sex. You need to first start not freaking out when I say no, and then if you get upset, to not let that fuel your anger about other things. Learn to be quiet about it, and if it is still a problem when you have calmed down, then you can calmly bring it up, or forget about it cause it isn't a big deal.



She is fucking good, honestly, and this is what im fucking dealing with. By the way, im not some beta dude, I do joke around, cock slap her, slap her ass, im a joker and have always had girls after me but obviously tripped and fell over this one. What do you think about what she said?
You know, reading this, I really am wondering if a big part of the problem is actually you.

It seems like you went over by her house, which was a big step for her and her parents to accept, and she simply wasn't comfortable having sex with you there. Instead of discussing it rationally, you became passive aggressive, and it seems you have a rather passive aggressive streak.

Last time I slept over by my girlfriend, I decided to NOT have sex. Because I respected that, at least for the first time, we should let them be comfortable without them hearing any sex moans across the hall.

You obviously need to open up the lines of communication with your girlfriend. Talk about your issues in a positive way, without trying to cast blame or point fingers. Talk to her HONESTLY about your issues and come to a COMPROMISE.

You also need to be less fucking needy. If your own girlfriend turns you down, then the right thing to do isn't to pester her again for sex. You need to SHOW her that you aren't needy, that you're ok without it, and make her come to you.
I'll bite because choc made this thread interesting. Why did you just post her replies and hid yours? Come on man... Don't bs people onon here


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:38 am 
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Heya man, long time! I actually remeber your posts from a while back. You seemed to be enjoying life, and now looked what you've turned into. It's amazing what powers women have if you let them have it, every man has their kryptonite even if they don't know it yet. But this is fucking toxic and like most people here have said you need her out of your life. You've come over the first step by posting this, so the second step is either put your foot down and put her in her fucking place or walk away. You are been an AFC dude giving her all control, Work on yourself dude, better yourself, use all the time you have on yourself, she will see this and she'll want you even more but there are plenty and I mean plenty of amazing girls out there. She seems like a selfish, childish bitchy person with only good intentions for her self and way to immature for a serious relationship.

I know it hurts now and will for a while, but the sooner you do this the sooner it'll be over with and you can look back at this post and think holy shit what a dumbass I was. You obviously care for her deeply, which she doesn't deserve but I'm a strong believer in karma so good will come to you and she will one day feel the shit your going through with another guy.

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You know, reading this, I really am wondering if a big part of the problem is actually you.
I had the same thoughts too upon reading his gf's monologue. So I looked at several of OP's posts way back 2010 to validate if OP is really a sex-starved asshole with a short fuse. What I discovered was the reverse.

It is more likely that his gf has been reading this thread and hence the long litany on OP's supposed relationship crimes. I thought OP was trolling at first. The truth is: OP is a chode even way back 2010. No amount of name calling or insults in the past has changed OP into a better man.

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I'm not sure the person he was 6 years ago is relevant to any degree. 6 years is a long time. Hell, even 1 year is.

Although he really should post the entire convo, not just the monologue.

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