I feel like all my PUA learnt material or things I have stood for in the past has gone out the window. Even my friends hate her, but I can't see it.

Of course, you can't see it yet because your mind is clouded by emotions. No matter what advice you get on here if your mind is still troubled, it will be very difficult for you to make a logical decision. You have to calm that mind first by taking a major portion of the stress away.

How?

Use Google and you'll see that the safest and most natural way to do this and works effectively at 80% to 90% according to scientific empirical evidences by several reputable studies is...

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Sigh. Where do I even start?
Here's your answer, straight from yourself
Because she treats you like shit. And that's what she thinks of you too, if that's how she treats you. On a fundamental level, she's simply too far gone, and her behavior and beliefs too ingrained for her to change.

Why do you even want someone who treats you like shit anyway?
1. You're extremely unhappy
2. There are other women (millions) who are hot, cool, and smart, who won't treat you like shit
3. She treats you like shit
4. Because you deserve someone better, someone who recognises and values you and your thoughts, and who doesn't treat you in a degrading manner.

Guys who have zero skills with women let the women treat them like shit and get away with it. It is really sad.

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Dear Whysoskinny, The Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come just left and it looks like you're getting jack shit for pussy again this year. Merry Christmas!

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Come on is this still a thing?

How? What is your answer. I googled and what I got was this: http://www.wikihow.com/Relieve-Stress

One thing i realize when I message on this thread. You just see my posts, you just see it on a forum site about the game and how to get girls and the techniques and all that shit.

Youre right its much deeper than that, Ill start excercising like the advice I've been given. But im genuinely sick of tired of 1) being treated this way 2) thinking i am worth nothing now 3) it really starts to get me down and I honestly have dark thoughts that enter my mind lately because I am so sick of it

I know she may be a ' cancer ' which is why any rational human would want to get rid of her, but I dont understand WHY i dont want to.

There is a guy going to her college next semester living the floor below her, who is actually good looking, and he thinks she is hot and I know he is going to try and get her, it makes me so anxious that I have dreams about it sometimes. (I know how gay that sounds). Thats the point im at.

To get reliable sources from Google, I usually use this formula:

Keyword + journal pdf + .gov

For examples:

a) depression SPAM journal pdf .gov

b) stress relief journal pdf .gov

The 'journal pdf' makes sure that I'm only getting Google search results that will highly likely come from scientific journals. Once I get the search results, I choose the literature with the highest number of citations.

To make it doubly sure that the scientific literature is a solid piece of advice, I add the '.gov' I choose literature that come from US, UK and German government websites. WikiHow is good but oftentimes, you'll just get anecdotal advice without any scientific backing.

Here's what I got from Google using the above method:

https://nccih.nih.gov/health/meditation/overview.htm

http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/32/2/111.full.pdf

The one from the British Journal of Sports Medicine has 621 citations while the one from the US Department of Health & Human Services has no citations.

As for thinking about another guy getting your girl, the solution is simple and yet it is easier said than done in your condition right now: Get 3 to 5 girls and fuck them. Fucking 3 to 5 different girls will also calm you down and get those emotionally painful thoughts out of your mind.

If what you said here is true, that you're an elite athlete in a masculine sport, it isn't that hard to get 3 to 5 women. Just open your eyes. These equally hot girls are just around you. All that you have to do is approach them and say, "Hi. Let's go." Then get refreshments or coffee. Once you get those instadates, keep things light and fun, refrain from talking about any negative emotions, and then try to isolate girls in your apartment.

Merry Christmas OP.

Today, get yourself a Cohiba, a warm Spanish brandy, and a steak. The Cohiba will calm you down. It will clear your mind even for just today. If you can't afford the Cubans, the ones from the Dominican Republic will do. Next, the warm Spanish brandy will relax you. One glass is more than enough. Don't drink the whole bottle. Most importantly, the steak will start you on the road to horny.

Cheers.

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Hi mate,

Excellent post above. Im going to read your long 10 page document you attached tomorrow. Do you have any other interesting posts or reads to send my way that can make a difference?

I want to learn, and I want to fix this.

I haven't asked but, like today on christmas day... we got in a fight, and she spoke to me so rudely, i even said... i cant believe this, christmas day and we're fighting and you just cant let it drop. I went to her house to drop off her present and the first thing she made me do was unstack her dish washer with her. I couldnt stay long cuz her mum said 'wow cant even go 24 hours without seeing one another', and it was christmas day.

What can i say to her when she is a bitch, or hangs up on me and says omg i dont want to deal with you bye...
I normally text her right away and say are you serious youre being so rude pick up.

Also, she doenst like sex, thats the worse part, and she uses it as a weapon.. 'i have sex with you and you get to orgasm so the least you can do is massage me or... something else'

i hate it that she is so hot and has a nice ass..

She likes sex. With men. Which you are not, OP.

Why can't you get that through your thick skull? You don't fix something that's broken beyond repair. You cut your losses and regroup.

Fucks sake you're acting so disgustingly melodramatic I'm not even surprised she walks all over you. She's not being a bitch, you're simply being a pathetic excuse for what she wants in her life.

Ps: a man.

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How to keep a girl.

You don't have any boundaries as a man. That's why there's no sexual attraction from her to you.

I would concentrate 100% on your inner game if I was you. You can't build lasting structures which are secure on unsecure foundations.

There are more than enough resources out there for you to learn from.
You're right to text back straight away.....but only if the message is along the lines of.

"Never ever message me again, deleting your number"

You don't want to get rid of her because she's all that you have. You're desperate, you've allowed her importance and DEPENDENCE to build in your life, and you're afraid that you can't do any better.

So prove all that wrong. Dump her. She WILL eventually cheat/leave you, because you obviously are not satisfying her emotionally. The best thing to do is to move on, and to next time never become so dependent on someone that they can treat you horribly and be afraid of leaving them.

If you still have even a shred of self worth, you should pick it up immediately and leave her TODAY.

The reason why is your desire for her is an emotional response and emotions are way more powerful than rational cognitive thought. They act almost instantly and if powerful enough will relieve your cognitive brain of command till any emotional triggering event is dealt with.

Think about it...would you run naked down your street now for £10? No, it would be embarrassing, what would the neighbours think etc.

Now suppose you're getting out the shower and a PCP tripping maniac smashes his way into your house with a samurai sword. Would you do it then? Of course you would. The emotion FEAR takes over you. It says "Fuck the neighbours", "fuck the embarrassment", "I'm taking over till this situation is handled".

Whilst fear is one of the three most powerful emotions there are more junior ones which still have power over your problem.

Instead of being "rational" about the situation [which only analyses the problem] you need these other emotions on your side, emotions like anger at being treat the way you are, like self respect, like hope for the future. They're the things which will "trump" your neediness and pull rank on it.
That's the crux of it; you're at a pivotal point in your life and standing at the fork in the road. The guys on here are on their way back down the road, nobody's going to give you bad advice as we've all been where you are now, even if someone wanted to because they're a bit of twat they wouldn't as the other posters would hammer them for it.

Lke the NIKE slogan says "Just Do It". You will get self respect, the guys on here will respect you, and -in an ironic twist- the girl will too deep down.

Girls like her end up emotional fuck ups, in relationships with guys who knock them about in later life, so throw her in the dustbin where she belongs.

One things for sure: In a years time you won't give a fuck about her. At least "not give a fuck about her" as a man.

The thing is, I want to do it for myself, not for the respect from 'the guys' on the forum or her deep down. I believe that things could get better between her and I. We are back in Europe and things are a bit better, I am spending time with her and her family.

Maybe because she is out of college for the christmas break but I am more relaxed, and then she will go back to College and I know exactly what will happen. I don't know what to make of it. I have been following your guys posts and even reading on the things you have said.

I have downloaded a meditating app, took into a hobby, I have gone on runs every day, or other day, bought an apple watch to monitor it and everything. I feel slightly better but still I get moments where I wonder who she is texting, what she is doing, and then she talks to me in a way which is crazy.

The other day she did something so rude to me I imagined if she was a dude just flattening her, no other person or girl has ever annoyed me to the point of her.

You say if I end it, some guy will then be with her and she will be an emotional wreck after a year, I think if I end it she would realize it, change, and then be a better person for the next guy. I look at her mum, and jeezish christ, she is so controlling herself to her husband, giving orders, always complaining, it reminds me so much of her, i tell her this and she gets so annoyed at me and says never compare me to my mother again. HA