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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:55 am 
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So I've met this amazing girl and we've been talking for a few days, got her number and I can really tell that she's into me (I really hope I'm not wrong) . She really opened up for me and told me stuff women usually don't talk about when they just meet a guy.
So basically untill now I'm the only one who's starting conversations and yesterday I was trying to talk to her again because I wanted to ask her out,

I sent a message asking what's up and asked why she doesn't send a message if she wants to talk and her response was that she had a really busy day that's all and I should not be worry about it and everything is fine but I didn't heard from her since yesterday.

Maybe i m over reacting because I really want her but what do you guys suggest to do? I don't want always send the first text it feels needy to me


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With the next girls, get them out soon after meeting them. Unless the goal is to become their texting buddy.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:13 pm 
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Never. Ever. Ever send a second message asking "why are you not replying?"
It is basically the most needy thing you can do.
How long did you wait before sending that message, after the first one?

Accept the fact that she might really be busy with school, work, etc.
Also, you write that you can really tell that she's into you, yet you question whether or not you're wrong?
The fact that she wrote the "don't worry" message, suggests to me that she probably is very interested, but don't blow it though, give her time to miss you, think about you and so on.
Also, just assume that all girls find you attractive, and all girls would like to have sex with you. Be confident that you're the man, the bawz, the motherfuckin' legendary pimp who lays hoes left and right.
If you start thinking that you're attractive, FOR REAL, it will rub off on your self image and reflect in your frame when interacting with girls.
I used to be very shy, and scared of girls because my success was almost non existant. I know that realistically not all girls want to have sex with me, but I like to think that atleast 80% of the women around me, would.

Girls are often a lot more social than guys, at least from my pov.
And I know how you feel. Usually it is a lot easier gaming a girl you only wanna bang. But if you percieve her as being super hot, or you start getting the idea of her being potential girlfriend material, it can quickly become harder to game her, because you start thinking too much. How she might react to a text, why she doesn't initiate.
My advice is to simply relax, know that you are attractive and regardless of how things might turn out with this particular girl, there are MILLIONS more out there.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:12 pm 
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So I've met this amazing girl and we've been talking for a few days, got her number and I can really tell that she's into me (I really hope I'm not wrong) . She really opened up for me and told me stuff women usually don't talk about when they just meet a guy.
So basically untill now I'm the only one who's starting conversations and yesterday I was trying to talk to her again because I wanted to ask her out,

I sent a message asking what's up and asked why she doesn't send a message if she wants to talk and her response was that she had a really busy day that's all and I should not be worry about it and everything is fine but I didn't heard from her since yesterday.

Maybe i m over reacting because I really want her but what do you guys suggest to do? I don't want always send the first text it feels needy to me
1. HAVE MORE OPTIONS. So that you won't be feeling needy if your girl doesn't text back because you'll be too busy with the three girls who DO text back.
2. CALL and see what's up. If no reply...then talk to the other girls who you have been also pursuing.

Neediness comes with lack of other available options. You like this girl because you think she's "amazing" but in truth there are LITERALLY millions of other girls out there like her. Go meet one or two of these other amazing women.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:20 pm 
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Never. Ever. Ever send a second message asking "why are you not replying?"
It is basically the most needy thing you can do.
How long did you wait before sending that message, after the first one?

Accept the fact that she might really be busy with school, work, etc.
Also, you write that you can really tell that she's into you, yet you question whether or not you're wrong?
The fact that she wrote the "don't worry" message, suggests to me that she probably is very interested, but don't blow it though, give her time to miss you, think about you and so on.
Also, just assume that all girls find you attractive, and all girls would like to have sex with you. Be confident that you're the man, the bawz, the motherfuckin' legendary pimp who lays hoes left and right.
If you start thinking that you're attractive, FOR REAL, it will rub off on your self image and reflect in your frame when interacting with girls.
I used to be very shy, and scared of girls because my success was almost non existant. I know that realistically not all girls want to have sex with me, but I like to think that atleast 80% of the women around me, would.

Girls are often a lot more social than guys, at least from my pov.
And I know how you feel. Usually it is a lot easier gaming a girl you only wanna bang. But if you percieve her as being super hot, or you start getting the idea of her being potential girlfriend material, it can quickly become harder to game her, because you start thinking too much. How she might react to a text, why she doesn't initiate.
My advice is to simply relax, know that you are attractive and regardless of how things might turn out with this particular girl, there are MILLIONS more out there.
" Never. Ever. Ever send a second message asking "why are you not replying?" "
It really wasn't like that.. I said it sarcastically.. then she said she had a really busy day and tha's all..
I really want her, like you said, she's really girlfriend material and with how much she opened up for me I really think I have a great chance.. Have any advice how to continue?


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http://youtu.be/TY3rT2N1Ecs

Please, just watch this

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:33 pm 
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Please, just watch this
I apreciate you help, but fortunatly it's not the case.
I know her less then a week, she can't friendzone me yet.
I know for sure she doesn't have a boyfriend.
I 80% sure she likes me, because of all the effort she put into knowing me. she even said she has more questions but she doesn't want to get really into my personal life right now.
I don't say she is the only one, or she is the ONE.. but i have a feeling that this is it. I haven't felt this feelings for really long time and I'm really afraid to blow this off (Yea i sound like a pussy but that's just what I feel rihgt now :\ )


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I apreciate you help, but fortunatly it's not the case.
I know her less then a week, she can't friendzone me yet.
I know for sure she doesn't have a boyfriend.
I 80% sure she likes me, because of all the effort she put into knowing me. she even said she has more questions but she doesn't want to get really into my personal life right now.
I don't say she is the only one, or she is the ONE.. but i have a feeling that this is it. I haven't felt this feelings for really long time and I'm really afraid to blow this off (Yea i sound like a pussy but that's just what I feel rihgt now :\ )
So you don't say she is the one, but you have a feeling she is the one?

Look man, you're saying she is putting in the effort into getting to know you. If she really likes you, like you say, if you back off she's going to pursue. Your fear is going to lead to the inevitability of you losing her.

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I haven't felt this feelings for really long time and I'm really afraid to blow this off (Yea i sound like a pussy but that's just what I feel rihgt now :\ )
And there it is.

The part where it starts to go to shit.

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She really opened up for me and told me stuff women usually don't talk about when they just meet a guy.
Are you kidding? She would tell that shit to her cat, everyone at work, and put it on fucking facebook, if she couldn't get feedback anywhere else.
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Maybe i m over reacting because I really want her
She's sooooo different than any-other girl anywhere .... just like a Disney Princess.

So yes messaging every 30 minutes does make you look needy.

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This would have been Exactly me back in the day. It's great to see u dudes tryna set him straight maybe it'll sink in somehow, it would have been nice to have someone speak to me like this back then. I could be totally wrong but my gut feeling is they met online and haven't seen each other in person yet.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:09 am 
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Never. Ever. Ever send a second message asking "why are you not replying?"
It is basically the most needy thing you can do.
How long did you wait before sending that message, after the first one?

Accept the fact that she might really be busy with school, work, etc.
Also, you write that you can really tell that she's into you, yet you question whether or not you're wrong?
The fact that she wrote the "don't worry" message, suggests to me that she probably is very interested, but don't blow it though, give her time to miss you, think about you and so on.
Also, just assume that all girls find you attractive, and all girls would like to have sex with you. Be confident that you're the man, the bawz, the motherfuckin' legendary pimp who lays hoes left and right.
If you start thinking that you're attractive, FOR REAL, it will rub off on your self image and reflect in your frame when interacting with girls.
I used to be very shy, and scared of girls because my success was almost non existant. I know that realistically not all girls want to have sex with me, but I like to think that atleast 80% of the women around me, would.

Girls are often a lot more social than guys, at least from my pov.
And I know how you feel. Usually it is a lot easier gaming a girl you only wanna bang. But if you percieve her as being super hot, or you start getting the idea of her being potential girlfriend material, it can quickly become harder to game her, because you start thinking too much. How she might react to a text, why she doesn't initiate.
My advice is to simply relax, know that you are attractive and regardless of how things might turn out with this particular girl, there are MILLIONS more out there.
" Never. Ever. Ever send a second message asking "why are you not replying?" "
It really wasn't like that.. I said it sarcastically.. then she said she had a really busy day and tha's all..
I really want her, like you said, she's really girlfriend material and with how much she opened up for me I really think I have a great chance.. Have any advice how to continue?
You've known her for less than a week, and already considering her for girlfriend material?
I think that might be a bit too soon mate. :wink:
Like everyone else in here has said, you gotta be careful not to push her away by being dependant on her and her reactions.
Ironic as it is, think about whenever a girl liked you but you didn't feel the same way.. I've had girls chase me when I wasn't interested, and also a girl is much more likely to persue you once you pull back a bit.
How do you add value to something? By making it scarce. Every now and then when I encounter girls who like to play the "Ohh you have to work hard for it"-card I just pull back, and obviously sometimes they don't care because they only wanted the attention in the first place, and have a 100 other guys lined up who will happily provide them with it. But more often than not, once I pull back they start becoming more interested because suddenly it is not as easy for them.
Of course, all girls are different to some extent and what works with the 50 first girls might not work with the next 5. No guy is 100% succesful, and even the best of PUA's get shot down. Don't be a douchebag obviously but don't sit at home and wait for her texts all night long either. Line up some other girls, bang them, hang out with your friends/family etc. And don't reply to her texts instantly when she contacts you.
Also, I recommend checking out Swingcat's guide on texting and general pick up. He has made an audio course. I don't know if there are any legitimate ways of getting a hold of it, but I do know that there are other ways -hint- He's good at teaching you the basics of setting the frame right, and help you see yourself in a different light.
Also: http://www.girlschase.com/content/text-message-flirting this is actually very good. I found it from a user on this forum actually, though I don't remember who it was. Credit to that guy though.
Also R.C.'s guide on texting is very good. It doesn't provide examples of good texts vs. bad texts and so on, but it is great for perspective. Like for instance, you shouldn't text a girl just to text her. Well, maybe if you are in a relationship that's all good but for pick-up and gaming, you really shouldn't. Know why you are texting, what is the purpose? And so on. Give it a read closing-and-day/topic189023.html

Now I don't know the exact details of your interactions with this girl, but my best advice is for you to relax and let things progress in their own time.
And keep in mind, even if things don't go the way you initially hoped for, you will at least learn from the experience. Always remember that in gaming! EVERYTHING is experience! Reflect, and evaluate what you did right and what you didn't. Without becoming obsessed about it though. :)


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I love the threads where OP thinks their situation is original and their girl is different (and perfect and a HB10!)...

They just make me feel warm and fuzzy inside... Because I know how they all end.


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