Dude i understand your're advice and i'm taking it to heart and i told you i like the idea of the black club thing but that's offline - i don't have issue with discrimination offline. The problem i'm facing is the discrimination online.

You have to understand online game isn't easy for black men who like opposite races. I even spoke with Justin Wayne who he said he experimented EXTENSIVELY online on trying to pull girls of opposite race but they discriminated him. He then created a profile of a white male which got tons of more responses.

I will continue trying online game but for now i will put my focus more offline.

That JW stuff is bs....dude is talking crap. I've seen him and it's not because of his race that girls are "discriminating" against him for. He is an ugly dude, and a white profile at the same looks level would not be getting a lot of responses. I'm sorry, but you cant be an ugly or average looking guy of any race, and expect to get a ton of interest online. Guys go online, ugly, fat with bad pictures and then when white girls don't respond its somehow due to their race. Bs. Online is a numbers game for any race. Yes, a black guy may get less messages than a white guy, all other things being equal. But if you're sending out a lot of messages(as any guy should), have good pictures and look good, you'll have a lot of girls of any race. If you're struggling online, its not due to your race.

Justin wayne will get less responses online from white girls than Gambler. He'll get less responses that Sinn. He'd get less responses than Mystery. Some of that will be because he's black, but MOST of it will be because he's overweight, short and ugly facially. Stop blaming shit on your race.

Moses, are you in good physical shape? Are you facially good looking? Do you have good pictures and a good profile. If not, then you're not gonna get a ton of messages from women online of any race. If you're average, you're average. An online isn't a good place for the average. Lol. Guys make it sound like average white guys online just have girls responding to their messages and trying to meet up.

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Isn't this Justin Wayne?

A lot of the time, I can't help but disagree with neo. But he nailed it here. Race has very little to do with it.

I'll admit that I'd rather fuck a white 5 than a black 7 or an Indian 8, but that's just me... I know plenty of guys who prefer black girls, half cast girls, whatever... it averages out.

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"Get outta that woman's house man..."

Kidding. Thats just a line my friends and I would tell our other friend when we were 21 because he still lived at home whenever he would say anything.

Seriously though, thats a weird mentality I never got. If a chick is an 8, why would I care what race she is and pick a 5? Chicks of different races have all these interesting differences; they talk differently, they like different things, they fuck differently. Why would I ever limit myself from equally hot or hotter women, just over skin color? Maybe that's why we disagree...because I'm actually trying to get different EXPERIENCES, not just doing the same thing again and again Try travelling...it gives a different perspective

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Whole post feels like a neg. I agreed with you. Lol. I've messed around with a black girl. I'm just not attracted to them. Would you fuck a guy for a new experience? I'm aware of the difference before you say it, but the point still stands.

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Lol. Wasn't negging you. It was a joke cause you made me remember the guy.

Also, you cant say something is different, yet the pt still stands like a point can stand on something that's different in the first place. Thats like me saying, would you eat a clown? I know its different, but the points still stands. What??

But to your pt, as I said it's weird to me. Like I have some friends who are white who love black girls. You ask them why, they say well they love women with big boobs and hips and ass. It's just that black girls in my state, typically have more of those things that other races. So I can understand them saying they like black girls, because what they're saying is I like hips and ass. When they meet a white girl with hips and ass, they go for them just the same. So my friends' black 8 is an 8 because she has hips and ass. The white girl is a 5 because she doesnt. So they choose the 8 over the 5. But if the white girl had hips and ass, she'd be an 8. And they wouldnt go for a black 5 over a white 8. It does sound a bit racist when you say youd rather do a white 5 than an indian 8, when I'd assume the 8 has more things you'd be attracted to and you'd drop standard just for race. I'm assuming maybe there are just features you like more on white girls or a demeanor you like more, or body type etc.

I do want to say to Moses that there are many women who think like JD tbh. If you're a black 8, they'd rather choose a white 5. Maybe they are racist, maybe they just like white features more. My friend (black) was talking just as you did when he tried okcupid. That he wasn't getting as much responses due to his race. Then he went on match, where you can see what races they girl is open to...guess what...his responses were at the same level. Don't expect miracles online. Race matters, but its a numbers game for everyone.

The first part, I never said they're opposites. The point still stands because there are similarities.

Sounds racist for a second, but it's not at all and everybody realises that when they think about it. I'm not as attracted to dark skin, or facial features. That's not racist at all. I'd rather fuck Emma Bunton than Ashanti. Anybody who says they don't have a racial preference is lying. It wouldn't be seen as racist if a black guy said he'd rather fuck Nicki Minaj than Megan Fox because he likes black girls, though - but this is probably due to historical factors that have no place on a pick up forum.

99/100 posts online turn into an argument about race, religion or politics lol. This is edging that way so I'm out I'm genuinely not talking from a place of racism, though.

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I don't get how there can be a debate on something so subjective. If you're attracted to someone, just use what you've learned and do your best.

I don't tend to use numbers to rate girls, but this is a one off...I would turn down a 9 for an 8 with an epic cleavage, it's so subjective. My old room mate loved fat girls abut yet masturbated to hot porn star girls.

Back to topic regarding the OP - seems like he is just going through a little defeatist attitude.

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I don't have a racial preference. However, I've never found Aborigines women attractive.

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I had no idea there could be an argument over me saying I found something weird. Never called you a racist, in fact, I said I assume you just like white features more. Where was the argument or debate lol. Maybe this is why we disagree; because you're responding as if I called you racist, when I actually said I assume you're not.

Do I have a racial preference? Hmm...not really...race is not a factor for me. If I met an alien chick with the features I like I'd be with her. Hot is hot to me. A hot 8 asian is just as bangable as a hot 8 black or a hot 8 white. I always thought the scale was subjective, so if I say an asian is an 8, that means she's an 8 to me. Thats why its weird to hear someone say they'd fuck someone THEY consider a 5 before someone THEY consider an 8.

But relax, no one was calling you racist. And even if you are racist, I dont care and you should be able to be racist.

I meant it as in, girls that would generally be considered those numbers.

For example Beyonce is probably generally considered a 10, but to me she's about an 8 at best. But Jennifer Anniston is probably generally considered a 7, I consider her to be a 9... see the point I was making? I was saying I'd spite myself and take the ugly girl just because she's white. I was saying I'd find the black girl more attractive.

I didn't mean you're going to start an argument. I meant the thread would turn into one. You know what internet people are like..

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Who ever says Jennifer Aniston is a '7' deserves to have a cock up their ass

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