Alright, new here, first post. Little about myself. I would consider myself average with women. Some friends call me a legend while other friends make me look like rookie. I've been known to number close two a night, number closed strippers, dated many bartenders and a few models. Big problem with my game, inconsistency , confidence without a few drinks and onegirlitis. Many times i get the number and it goes nowhere and not the best with online game. Just got out of an engagement with a solid nine that made me realize that the game never ends. That's what led me here. I want to learn everything I can as fast as I can. Be two steps ahead of my target at all times. If I have to play a game I wanna win. I've been dedicating almost all my free time to studying the most popular pua's styles, trying to learn body language (which i plan to master), psychology of it and anything else. It's so much different information and approaches such as indirect vs. Direct, preplanned lines vs. Natural, Observations vs. Questions. Obviously I'll have to change it up to meet each different situation. I guess I need a few Gurus to break everything down for me the best they can and help me learn and master everything they know. My plan as of now is just to friend zone as many beautiful girls as I can. Best wing man I ever had was a girl and that right there will help me with preselection/ abundance! Plus good practice! I am really looking forward to learning and mastering everything that your willing to teach me. Thanks in advance.

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sounds like you're where I was a couple of years ago.
I'll give you a breakdown on what really helped me.

and try to come at this with a blank slate. sometimes we have to forget bad habits, in order to make room for good ones.

don't read 'the game'...I personally thought it was way too dark and portrayed game as way to destroy yourself. instead, read The Tao of the Badass. it will break down how to start your journey in the right direction. the point of game is to instill self confidence, and strong morals. to build yourself up, no matter where you are on the ladder.

check out "making a shift", it's an 'in your face' look at using game to build all aspects of your life up.

work towards bettering yourself, rather than just getting notches on your bedpost. I know that this is all about getting women, but remember that it's more about having quality over quantity. it's not about how many women you get, it's about how many you've bettered for knowing you. don't be an asshole that ruins women for other guys, instead, show them that you are better and make them better. raising their self esteem will skyrocket yours.

and don't bite off more than you can chew. take this in stride. remember that gaming is a lifelong commitment. It's a commitment to being a better you, and always striving to raise the bar. don't give up if things get tough, instead plow through it. learn to live outside of your comfort zone.

definitely read Richard La Ruina's books. He knows his stuff and points you in the right direction. also, watch Adam Lyons and Josh Pellicer's videos. they're brilliant for a reason.

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Thank you for your reply. Sounds like I want the same thing out of this that you did. Not trying to just get laid, I grew out of that phase shortly after high school. I just want to even the playing field a bit and learn a skill set I can use to build the lifestyle I want then hopefully teach others. Not after notches, after the options. I agree about Niel and the mystery method. Has this helped you out alot? I've started on that book and I like Adam Lyons style alot. Wish I could find more stuff by him.

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Welcome to the forum man.

Now why exactly are you friendzoning as many women as you can?

I never quite understood this theory.

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Hey, thanks. Correct me if I'm wrong, that's why I'm here is to gain more knowledge. The way I see it I'm not going to sleep with or date every girl I meet. So if I don't evolve it romantically why not move it to a friendship? Which would work better in my favor walking in with two guys, or walking in with two girls? If I walk in with the girls I'm automatically pre-selected, plus a girl will trust a girl that says good things about me before a guy (girl code vs guy code) . You can move them back out the friend zone usually also if you put them there.

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Welcome to the forum! You're right about friendzoning women by choice being a good strategy for pre-selection and building the social lifestyle you want. Not only can they give preselection when you walk in the bar or club with them, but they can also introduce you to their girlfriends within their social circle. Even their girlfriends can introduce you to their girlfriends so your social circle will grow even bigger and have more options. Much of the initial work has been done for you since all the trust and comfort will transfer over. You don't need to worry much about building attraction and all you need to do from that point is to qualify them and escalate. It's a "farming" approach to game as opposed to "hunting" so you won't see the benefits right away but you will eventually start "reaping" higher rewards.

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Thank you Will Edward. That's exactly my goal, looking for the big picture . Any advice on the best system to get started to achieve my long term game plan? I want to get my game customized to what works for me and my motives. Like where I can literally make myself a study guide of steps to memorize, like my own dating manual. Complete with what body language to pay particular attention to, what to remember to do with mine and and other fine detail that I can use and master over and over when needed.

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For sure. I used to live with a guy in Vegas that is a legend in the community in social circle game so that's why I learned so much from him. I would see him pull 9s and 10s consistently through social circles and he would tell me exactly how I could do the same thing and I've started seeing the benefits from it. I'll send you a PM with more info.

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