Since I need some expert advice i was thinking this is the place to go. My first post here. English is not my native language so have some understanding if the spelling sucks. Long post.

So I met this really hot girl at the club about 2 months ago. I did everything right and we end up fucking. And I was fucking her good. Anyway, we met at her place a couple a days later and have sex again. Now, about this time I´m really starting to like this girl and thinking about taking this to the relationship level. Therefor I decide to take her out on a date. And I also find out she recently broke up with a guy like a month before meeting me. She said she thought he was the one and that he broke up with her. So we go at the date and we have a pretty good time. We went to look at animals. While there im grabbing here alot and we kiss. We go for some food and end up at her place fucking again. After this third time of sexing I since she gets a little more colder. A couple days go by and i call her to see whats up and she sounds cold talking about she cant meet because of work and what not. I said to here if she doesnt want to see me anymore maybe we should call it quits. She says she will call when she gets home from a one week vacation she had planned on to a female friend of hers. When we hung up I thought this was weak from my part so I text her right after basically saying I dont waste my kisses and my heart on someone who doesnt want it. I also said acting the rebound guy part aint my style. I thanked her for the time we had and wished her luck in life. Wanted to part friendly with her. She texted back how she didnt mean do use me as the rebound guy, she also wrote she thinks im wonderful and said thanks for everything. She also wrote she doesnt know when she can love someone again.

Now, personally I think thats bullshit. What shes actually saying is she doesnt know if she could love ME. Like I said, after the last time we met she got a little bit colder. And I know what I did wrong at some points. I was acting pretty much beta after the second time we had sex. I think I never shoulda taken her out on a date but continued only fucking her instead and let her get into me first. I think we never got to the building attraction phase cause of the ONS. We were both drunk that night. I dont know, should one keep building attraction after you slept with someone three times? I also made the mistake of taking contact to much. Shoulda let her take the initiave sometime. We are pretty different, shes into fitness and got a great body. Ive been slacking on my training for about 6 months but getting back into it. Shes into social media like crazy and i despise it. I dont use any of it. Shes 24 years old and im 33. In spite of this, i like her anyway.

Its been like 2 weeks since we last spoke. I want to get in contact with her again so im pondering how to go about. I know she was in to me before i went beta. Since we parted on good terms im thinking of sending her a text like "I´m thinking about biting you in the ass" or something like that. (I did this when we were together so maybe it can spark some emotion.) The problem with this is, the last texts we sent to each other was pretty much like good luck in life. Like we will never see each other again. Do I come of to needy here or does the rules go out the door since I already fucked here 3 times? Also, if i get back again with her i want to build up attraction. How do I go about doing this? Should I wait for her to take the contact first which im not so sure she will? Im pretty sure she will reply if I send one, but I dont want to come of beta.

Appreciate any help I can get.

The problem is, you're trying to flog a dead horse

She wanted a rebound guy and you was that till you started to fall for her after only fucking her 2/3 times. This is pretty beta behaviour, you got lucky and just got oneitus.

You need to understand that when you have sex with a girl, it does not at all mean that you're soulmate's forever. She wanted dick and you wanted love = Not compatible (You both want different things) Often girls don't want to be in a relationship so soon after a break up but they do however, tend to chase dick.

Next time, don't even CONSIDER a relationship till you know the girl is looking for that. You will pretty much know what she wants after spending a few nights with her. All you did was think about what YOU wanted. It's a mutual thing.

I am willing to bet you could still be fucking her right now if you was to become her fuck buddy (only). Nothing more. You have been replaced by some other guy who is probably fucking her right now giving her no strings sex.


Shit like this only makes you look so damn weak and butt hurt = NEEDY = unattractive behaviour.

It is time to chase more girls and learn to pick up girls with a developed skill set, rather than get lucky once and join a pick up forum.

Read my sig thread, If you're not ready for a complete transformation, then perhaps this forum isn't for you.

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Thanks Dragula for the hard truth. Ofcourse you are right. Me being 33 years old is somewhat pressuring me in thinking about settling down and have a family. Besides that, I would still like to get back on fucking terms with this girl again. I think it is possible but I´m not just sure how to go about.

You're welcome, I would just talk to her and tell her you're not looking for anything serious anymore and then joke to her and tell her she has to promise to not fall in love with you...

It's still kind of weak but you got nothing to lose.

I am 30 and in my mother fucking PRIME. The 30's decade is is under rated. I really think you should only settle down after you're good with the ladies and not settle down with the 1st thing that comes along,

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

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Yeah thx m8. I will have to try something.

You're being VERY needy.

I don't like how you went in a tantrum because you were falling in love too fast - it's your fault, not hers.

You're right about a lot of things though. You're good at reading between the lines.

You need to learn how to keep it casual. She's just trying to have some fun, because she knows that the best way to get over one guy is to get under another. Just enjoy it. If she wanted a relationship, she'd be the one to bring it up. You just need to set dates, do all of the planning so she has to just turn up looking all sexy and not having any idea what will happen. Women like that shit. Oh, and then you fuck her... again.

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I hear ya. I know where I did wrong. I thought I could get some advice on how to play it from here on. I sent her a text about an hour ago without a reply. It was 00.30 here so maybe she was asleep, but I don´t think. I think im gonna cut my losses on this one. Shes developed into a oneitis and i find myself looking at her instagram every day. And i dont even have Instagram. It was farfetched anyway. Ive got much working on my self to do also.

LMAO

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LMAO. Had to paint the picture.

So you walked away because you didn't get what you want... but then that didn't work, so you came running back? You made yourself look like a boy.

If she contacts, set a date. The kind of date where you'd have sex, not a coffee date or anything like that.

If she rejects, tell her to give you a call when she changes her mind. Stop being so invested. Go out and fuck as many other girls as possible, then tell me she's so good.

Most importantly of all, stop online stalking!!

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Roger that. Sounds healthy enough. Thx.

So she sent a text back to me the next day. She was all happy I got back to here. We send each other a couple texts back and forth, teasing and bantering, and I end up asking her to meet up for drinks the same night. She turns me down saying it sounds fun but shes at her way to a friends. Do I keep on pushing again after a couple days trying to set a date or lay low and wait for her to contact? And if so, for how long? I dont want to keep on chasing her, initiating contact and coming of needy, but shes reciprocative when I do. How do I play this men? Do I contact at all if she doesnt, or do I just say fuck it and move on, risking loosing busting all kinds of nuts?

I take it you ended it the right way, by telling her to give you a call when she changes her mind?

She's the one who tried to demote you to the friendzone. She needs to be contacting you every single time, at which point you say "When are you free to get together?" (that eliminates the risk of her being on her way to a friends house)

I do want to point out though, that if you were on the way to a friends house you'd have cancelled and gone to see her lol. You're more into her than she is into you, which is getting in your way.

The need for anything, gets in the way of everything.

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Didn´t end it that way. But I shoulda have. It was more like " Have fun. Bye." You´re right about me being more into her then she´s into me. That´s what I´m trying to change. Thats why I need help from you guys. I am approaching girs when Im out (which isn´t a whole lot) and all of that. But I still want this one.

You say she needs to be contacting me everytime. So if I don´t hear from her in a month I should erase her from my phone and keep on moving? You mean there´s absolutely nothing I can do if she doesn´t initiate contact next time?

Every human being is needy. Maslow's hierarchy of needs has sex as the fundamental physiological need with love in the middle and personal definition at the top. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27 ... y_of_needs

That need for sex is our reason for being (and being on this site). Men are up front about their sexual desires. Women pathologically avoid taking responsibility for their sexuality and being honest about their emotions, hence, the PUA tactics to break through their rationalizations for contradictory/deceptive behavior.

That the OP is an Eros lover, who falls in love easily, places him in the unique realm of the seductor, who would be happiest with confidantes and lovers vs. once in a blue moon 5 minute sex (as in the Ludus lover with intimacy issue) is no flaw or mistake. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_styles

The OP should learn to control how much interest he shows in a woman, until he is certain that she is an Eros lover worthy of all that voluminous erotic passion. Until then, the OP should, as discussed in this forum over and over, put her in the position of pursuing him until she can show that she deserves to be in his life, and if not he must indifferently drop her. That's psychological health 101.

Stop contacting her. Stop thinking about what is going on in her head, as not even she knows. As discussed in this forum, these are women's priorities: getting some guy's money, her nails, her hair, her vacations, her car, her friends, her children, and then you. Paying for women, i.e. drinks is always dicey as it immediately shifts the value to them, when she should want to have sex with you due to primal attraction sans the purchase. As soon as "friends" became an excuse to not have sex with you (she can see her friends anytime), she lowered your importance/value, making that calculation explicit.

Do not talk to her. She'll send you a text sometime in a day or two to test your availability and then punk you again. Silence and indifference are devastating to women whose lives are nails and gossip. While she obsesses over your silence, go have sex with all of the other women, who dig you on the spot (desirous of being your 24/7 playmate). In 3 months, you won't even remember her name.