My aim of "the game" is all for accuracy. I do not like the conventional idea of basically approaching 100,000 girls and 95,000 not like you, 4,000 give number and so on until you lay 200 and think you are a player and have big game. Ya no, you're literally the guy in school that hit on everything that moved and got lucky once but are now doing it on a much larger scale.

In-field pick up is pretty good and relatively easy to see where you went wrong. However one area that seems to be underdeveloped to say the least is online game to meet up's. A LOT of us guys fish online on the side. Creating these DHV pictures, profiles and so on, only to have the damn girl flake. It's no mystery online game has a lot more flakes to it, just take a read at the posts in this section. Being accuracy oriented I never liked the idea of "Oh well" or "that's just how it is". Clearly something is up to why she prefers one to another and that is what the game is about.

First, OPENING MATTERS IN ONLINE GAME. A lot of pua stuff says opening is the least important thing to pua. In online game it is probably the most important part, if she doesn't respond what can you do? Exactly, nothing! You can message her (1 way) all you want but one click of block or unmatch and your sauce. I ALWAYS found this idea of what people respond to so interesting the majority of my life (way before pua). When I was about 18 I used a very popular app called "Kik". Don't use it, it's mostly 15-17 y/o's but when you're 18 it's fine. On the app you can talk with any of its 150m+ users. So legit from the time I was 18-20 I would just find out what a female responded to best. I'm telling you this just so you have an idea I have some background. If you care to know what worked best for me on that app "Can we be best friends now before you get famous " almost 85% response rate between 12pm to 1am EST (people get tired ya know). Yeah, yeah I got nudes from every 18+ girl in all the corners of world, but who gives a sh!t if you're not getting laid, that's where tinder picked my online game to a next level.

Online profiles are pretty well developed for the pua part. Don't take selfies, get someone to take your picture and so on (you can read all about them) been lurking this forum a while (even before signed up) and there are plenty of good tips, Dragula also knows his shit well in this area. My tinder description is simple "No crazies please C:" I tried all the "Kinda an asshole" "who actually reads this" stuff and it doesn't work that well. "No crazies please" has proved to be the best, it's funny, short/simple, shows you have standards (to a degree), not desperate for anything that comes your way and so on. I think some things like "Don't netflix and chill me" ect give a more suspicious reaction (that being your true intent) than you're some challenge ect.

Always message first and about 5 minutes after you match (they are probably online still) message them. Girl's of my generation have ADD for guys you NEED to hit it while it's hot. However the idea of "hit it while it's hot" can be scary (and a test of skill) to some/most. How fast should I escalate ect all go through the average mans head and it gets all worked up and we lose a lot of girls in the process. Think like a girl on tinder honestly. There are 3 males she will encounter on tinder (looks 100% dont matter as you just matched, it's all game now). Male 1: The idiot, he will say something stupid that she will ignore. Male 2: Pua/nice guy/AFC these are guys she will talk to at a frequent interval. Male 3: Me (I explain and this is what lowered flakiness). Male 1 is self explanatory why she wont talk about it, your first message being "1v1 me m8 I rekt you" don't expect sh!t. Side note even if she is a gamer don't say that, I tried leetspeak/nerdy things multiple (50+ easy) times to gamer/nerdy girls and it NEVER works (I was 18 and AFC give me a break). Do you see the problem with male 2? we are lumped in with all the losers! She will talk to us all day, tell us her passions, dreams and stuff but she is essentially saying the same thing to the other Mr. Nice guys on tinder. So yea our game may be inherently good/better but in a land with so much competition, attractive techniques only stand out marginally and we get lumped into a broad category aka BORING and she has no desire to see us in person.

Male 3: My technique. I wish it was very complex but it's not. Get the match, message after 5 minutes. When she responds, respond quickly (1 to 2 minutes) do this about 3-4 times and then ignore her for about 8 hours. Then message her back quickly 2 times and then wait 1 and a half hours to message her back. If she isn't already double/triple messaging you ask for her number. I have done this about ~10 times now, it is strange how well it works. I legit feel like its something that should be on the porn sites "THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK" at this point . The most common result I have girls GIVING me their number, "you should text me instead". I also had one today ask for a coffee meet up after the 8 hour gap. What I am noticing is I am getting stronger pulls and desire, faster text back times and better texts from her in general. I do this for day 2 also, I text her a couple times quickly in the afternoon PAST 12PM (during my Kik days I noticed a substantial decrease in response rate before 12pm). Then apply the 6 hour gap and text her late at night quickly until I call her. Honestly I have a fear of calling, I feel it's too strong too this too that. I drop a small non suggestive hint "wow you text so fast maybe I should just call you" and they eat it up at full on command. I was very impressed today with this one also, we all got the "i'm tired" or "my roomate" bullshit from flakey girls. When there is 100 logical things they can do but really it's just low interest. This one girl today was talking to me under her blankets so it was quieter to not wake anyone ! (very high interest obviously)

Some extra tips. On tinder I noticed it's best to find a line that suits you best and yields high accuracy and never stray away from it. Often I can get snagged by something in their profile and want to make a comment about it but that usually doesn't go that well. Don't say something that Mr friendzone would say aka my great Kik line did not fair me well here. Say something with sexual undertones but is not direct. I have had great results with this one "You look like you could be trouble but I don't know just yet ". That's it, no kissy face no flirty winky. Also one thing DO NOT ANSWER HER QUESTIONS. For example above she could say "Lol why!" you might be excited and answer it (going full AFC) or try your hand at something witty/pua (you have a dangerous look in your eye). That shit don't work. The question is a congruence test. If you answer her frame becomes bigger AKA she has control and that = bad and you're out. So when she asks "why do you say that lol" just say back "Top secret information I can't tell" or "that information is classified" and turn it into a little fantasy. I shit you not some girl was so curious one time to know what I first meant as a joke I said "I will tell you for titties" cause I really did not give a shit about her and bam there was boobs followed with an all caps message saying TELL ME NOW.

I typed enough to float the titanic but more is better than less. PLEASE try this method out and reply with results of success and failures. It is working extremely well for me but I always, always like to improve upon great to make it even better.

Thanks

I will give it a try.

Sometimes i do this by accident cos i'm too busy and forget to text my matches back sometimes. but usually by that time I am toast and they fade away, from my experience. 'Striking whilst the iron is hot' and all that but I will give your thang a whirl before I make a solid opinion

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^ Yeah I agree on with the hit it while it's hot if it can happen thing. But I noticed girls (especially of beauty) usually have bad logistics in general (working, already has plans) so the earliest you get a meet up is like 2-3 days and she is almost cold by then. Not totally cold but just not enough to want to see you anymore especially when newer more interesting guys are popping up. Long story short I think the main benefit of this method is it filters out low interest in the first place, saving the headache of a flake and time wasted on her. Maybe that's why it's working so well so far.

3 matches today, trying it on them as well. Will post more.

Some screenshots / transcripts will be useful

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Start to finish


Noticed I didn't answer her damn question, DONT DO IT BRO. I normally wouldn't of said "what kind of person are you?" It's just too forced qualification and you lose a few times, it's like a speed bump. However I had a strong sense of her personality from her profile and knew she would get the sass of the message.


She is like a 7 but she has braces and I think that's cute af so extra points for you. She texts me nonstop and she has called me 2 times now, I am going to meet up with her tomorrow. I have others but I just don't want to turn this post into Pictionary. I will keep posting "logs" though here.

I thought you were gonna do the "leave her hanging" trick that you mentioned

I understand that she pretty much gave it you. Was just hoping for some other screen shots using your method

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I did Dragula, she responded at 1:53pm and I responded at 8:36pm thats the tactic, and them giving their number is a side effect of it from high interest.

Here is another one fresh off the line today with some more notes and thoughts.



The first thing I said is my generic line, it works. Like I said. Sexual undertones but nothing to send off the creep alarm. It also is very easy to reply to, that even the dumbest of girls can understand. People doing this for a while will know what I mean by stupid girls who can't even answer the simplest of questions.





Now here is the real secret to the madness. I responded quick and then was gonna give her a multi-hour ignore but she gave me her number and she should be rewarded with that good behavior. If she hated tinder she wouldn't have one, she just used that as an excuse to talk to me more. I have said that many times before "I really don't like this place we should get out of here". I use a lot of emoji when talking, it keeps the message in the tone you want to keep it and avoids those awkward misinterpretations that can cause a lose.

Important part is when to execute the ignore. Ever been talking to a girl, started getting excited (not sexually just in general) and really enjoying the conversation and can feel yourself "giddy" to reply. She probably is feeling the same way too if she is responding that quickly! That is when I give the ignore SPAM. WHY? because the thing about being a former AFC is you can use it's disadvantage to your advantage. I been down the road many times where I go with the feeling talk quickly with a girl all day and the night comes around, her replies get slower and then she "falls asleep" but its 11:02pm! okay maybe she did, but 11:02pm though. O look she responds in the morning but it's 12:30 hmmm well maybe she sleeps a lot. She talks quickly for 2 or 3 texts and then oops big ole 4 hour gap, "maybe she is at work!". Her interest is dropping like a rock and you keep buying her busy bs. My point there was we can take our inner chump's advice and do the opposite (sometimes). So when I get that feeling of KEEP TALKING BOY I stop because I know the other 95% of males get it too, and what happens? No matter what we say or do we are still lumped into the other 95% and that is GG for us.

I keep my log running

you gotta be careful on tinder also. there's a major scam going around on there. here's the link to the scam reports: http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/t ... dating-app

be careful to all of you, make sure you're actually talking to someone and not a bot or a fake person. happens all the time.

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Great stuff Kooler. I've been getting a lot of girls saying they have to work after getting excited about a day 2 event or saying yeah that'd be soo fun then when I go to plan the date they have to work.

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