Hello,

A few weeks ago i have installed Tinder. I do get some matches, an average of 2 a day. Im alright at opening, i can use an opener and get away with a decent conversation (trying to get in a neg within the first few lines messages). But after going a back and forth after the opener a bit i dont know what to say. I have this problem in real life as well, im not really a talker. Thats my bigest problem at the moment that i have no clue how to hold an interesting conversation after that. I can start off with some small talk but with that will often just turn into some boring back and forth questioning losing the vibes after the opener.


I wonder if this is a lack of chemistry? Last year i had a girl who i could actualy have a good conversation with while texting. I even got a girls number (quite a mistery), but i dont kind of really messed up texting her and i have the problem i cant hold an interesting conversation with her as well.

I hope some of you guys can give me some help with keeping the conversation going on Tinder.

thanks

It's a skill

You haven't approached or talked to enough girls required to do so. Read my sig link.

You haven't searched the forum or even googled, stop being lazy and figure it out. Read RC's text thread. I can't be bothered to link you

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Thanks i have read the link in your sig along with quite a few of the sticky's on here and online articles on Tinder. The thing is that everything on Tinder is about having a good opener, nothing else. So i wonder if there was some information on that? I do understand that talking to people is a skill and i terribly lack that skill. Im new on this forum so excuse me if i havent found all the appropriate threads yet.

Disagree, The pictures are EVERYTHING with tinder

You can simply use 'Sarah!!!!' As an opener and she will respond most times. If she doesn't respond to that, then she is either a bot or time waster

The opener isn't as important as you make it out to be, just avoid "hi" "hey"

Most people then fuck up the back and forth vibe. Too many guys talk about boring shit like occupation. They just don't make it fun and engaging enough, they always seem to crumble frame and oblivious to it. Which is why it's a skill. RC 's Text guide will help you out with that

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Yes i know pictures are the most important. My pictures kind of suck i only put up two, i really need to add some more. I do still get some matches and had even a few girls open on me with "hey".

edit: thanks for the recomendation, i have found it. It was a great read and quite helpfull.

Probably good to have some direction for the conversation. I am not a big fan of routines, but when you're getting matched with strangers you do not want to be endlessly texting all of them. The goal is to get her number in first 5-10 messages.

Also humor is a plus.

managed to arrange a date for next week. Kinda nervous en curious for what it will be like.
thanks. Yes i try to incorporate humor and negs. Practice makes perfect, i see as i spend more time on tinder and my tinder game my routine gets better and i can come up with a good reply much faster now.

This is wrong. This is right.

At least in bigger cities (where I am from) the girls are looking for a regular normal attractive guy to flirt with, validate them or hook up with. This all being said, I've talked to many girls and got their opinions on tinder as well as the many who I have dated. Most will tell me they match with a ton of guys but they all get super weird or send them dick pics as soon as they give their numbers to the guys. Really you don't have to be great at talking to girls, but it is a skill of just being normal and interacting with a girl on tinder. Throw away your negs for tinder game, she already finds you attractive. With the looks thing, some girls will find you physically attractive regardless. You will get more matches with girls who do, but looks aren't going to get you from open to close any easier. That is game.

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Heart charmer - why do you keep following me around this forum? Do you think are are Some kinda text God?

I want you to put this pic of Majikal method on your profile right now and tell me pics aren't everything:


You send me fucked up opener but I will use my Own pics, let's see who gets more dates? You wanna put a bet on it? SPAM good for you?

Enough fiction, get real. Do you just argue for the sake of arguing? You actually no nada and your advice gives optimism for the lazy people. Is just dangerous advice because you want to look cool on a forum? Drop the ego and get to reality.

Normal guys have been getting laid just by using "hey" , no doubt they lose a lot of girls but if their ppics are good then it doesn't matter. Get real. Stop speculating

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Not really sure how you know this, but I would hope that you are aware that the game after your looks did the job getting you the match consists of building comfort with the girl and escalating eventually to the close. Regardless how good you look this won't get you all the way. With your advise looks is the be all end all on tinder. Thus one could conclude that because I am ugly I am fucked for tinder and should give up all hope. In effect the lazy person would have an excuse for not learning game and likely wouldn't.

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Use that picture bro, see where it takes you. Use all the game you want. SPAM?

Instead of saying 'Wrong' like a bell end, you could just say 'As an ugly fucker, my advice would be to bla bla'

My advice is to use GOOD pics and send good messages and somehow you think it's 'wrong' advice.

What is the 1st thing a girl will see when she goes on Tinder? the profile's, not messages from them the guy. You're doing it backwards. It's like you have this disease that makes you think your text game is be all and end all of game.

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Dragula's right, having good pics is the key to success. That is not to say you have to look like a fitness model on the cover of a magazine, but if you average or slightly below average in the looks department, then you need good quality pics that are interesting.

Text game helps once you already get matches. You should not be putting the cart before the horse.

As for sexting goes, its probably not the best idea to send her a dick pic as soon as you get her number, but it can be a good way to screen girls and heighten the sexual tension. Although, all this assumes you have decent text game, and can create sexual tension in the first place. It's just another tool to be used, which allows the girl to invest more in the conversation and increase the odds you get laid.

I think the biggest key is to construct a profile that is not too "serious", but kind instead humorous that makes tinder look like a joke. I believe there is something to be said about the law of least effort. Girls pick up on subtle clues whether a guy is trying to hard by the pics he chooses, or is a fun guy that doesn't really give a shit.

When I made an account about a month ago, my intention was to make the douchiest ( IDAGF ) profile to the point that is was funny and obvious. From there I'd just troll around send obscene messages. Once I was getting a lot of matches, I tweaked my profile a bit and presto.

The OP's question was not how to construct a profile but rather how to talk to women. Let's see how advantageous taking advise from posters who have one month's worth of tinder experience can be.

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Not really sure why you have to bash on others that are trying to help. If it makes you feel better about yourself, and in some way improves your game, then go ahead. I'm trying to help others, and if by bashing on me it improves you somehow, then go ahead. I'd rather you put me down then the people you come into contact with.

-cheers!

You're right I don't want to bash you. It's really about helping the OP getting the results he's after, I thought it important to mention the kind of inexperienced advise that people should watch out for. The mission of guys getting better is what I'm after, if that does mean some criticism it does, but no hard feelings.

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