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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:03 am 
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Let me start by saying i'm 16 years old I am slightly below average looking (I wouldn't say ugly) I am about 5'7 and 1/2.

I got into the game a few months ago I started by watching a bunch of RSD videos (Tyler and Julien) and I also have been reading a lot of the stuff Mystery came up with (like routines and negs). But I feel I don't know which direction to go or what to do/learn. Let me describe a few of my sets:

1. The best set I ever had. My buddies and I were driving around and we saw a girl (an 8) on the track stretching (it was like 10 pm) so I told them to stop and let me out. I went up to her and held up my hand for a high five (I did it in a fun joking sorta way) she went for it and I took her hand and put it around me. She laughed and I talked to her for a few minutes, I did not use any routines or anything. Eventually I went for the number close and even though she told me she had a boyfriend, she gave it to me. I did not follow up because she was in college and I am in high school but it was still a good learning experience.
I feel like the set went very well because I was in state during the interaction, I also employed stuff I learned from Owen Cook and Julien Blanc like Laser eye contact and good body language.

2. The second best set, I was at this ice cream place and my buddy told me to game some girls so I went to three girls sitting at a table and I used the "Who lies more" opener and then I talked to them about stuff that I loved like music I had no filters. Eventually I got all their numbers and I was hugging them and took some pictures with them. Only problem was they were 6's max.

3. I saw a girl I knew from school with her friend at the park last summer, I ran game did a bullshit palm reading routine and a shitload of Kino escalation. I scored her number and she invited me to hang out a week later (I blew that sky high) it wasn't a date btw.

Aside from those 3 I have had a TON of sets where I go up to the girl or girls and start talking to them and the following happens
1. They talk to me for a minute but when I try to make it go somewhere they just look at me weird and are like "I don't think so"
2. It is just weird and ugly the entire time and they just want me to go away

It always just feels weird talking to them I can never hook a set it always just dies down and becomes strange like they want me to go away. I never even get the chance to build attraction it's like it is out of the question.
Should I cut my hair? I love having long hair because it is badass but it looks REALLY bad. Look up Dee Snider but imagine that but brown and uglier. I know looks are not that important but should I cut it?
What should I learn?
What should I practice?
Please help


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:20 am 
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I was shy and awkward as hell when I was 16. I was seriously listed as "most likely to be nervous" in my high school yearbook senior year (thank goodness for the internet as I used it to meet women).

So you're doing very well for only being 16. Getting college chicks' numbers. Epic awesome.

The hair depends on a few things. Seriously - you could use the question on women you approach. Say something like, "I've had long hair for a while and am considering cutting it. Tell me if you think I look better with long hair or short hair."

If you ask enough women you'll get your answer. Some women have a personal preference of short hair and some love long hair on a guy (especially since it's much rarer -I had hair down to my chin during college and it's definitely a niche).

I would learn Daygame. Watch Yad on Daygame.com. He kind of has long hair too! But he's very good at continuing interactions with women and keeping them going. I think you'' find it very useful.

If you get good at approaching women you'll kill it. Most guys your age have no approach game. Heck, your friend told you to approach those women because he was probably too afraid to do it. Having the guts to approach is seriously half the battle. Guys who can approach and converse get laid.

My ex-business partner looked like a straight version of Bruce Vilanch (not quite as fat but with a beard) and even at the age of 50 he would attract women (despite being married). He would tell me stories about his single days and they were pretty epic. He was merely a nice, funny guy who had no fear. Study up and keep improving and you will make it happen.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:17 am 
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I agree, for a 16 yr old, your doing quite well with your results and your confidence in general. I reckon, just keep doing what your doing and you'll learn alot along the way. I dont think you really need to study any game structure or methods. The best lessons are learnt in field. In 5 years time you'll be brilliant at it.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:01 pm 
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I definitely wasn't able to do what you were able to do only in your first few months into game. I wasn't able to do the kino, getting number closes, and the other stuff that you described until about 7 or 8 months into the game. But then again, i was a hard case newbie. You must be either an easy or normal case. I'm almost 2 years deep in the game now.


As for you not being able to hook sets consistently, getting flaked, and blown out once you start asking girls for their phone number or a Day-2 (the date)...It could be because you just simply don't have enough reference experience with approaching girls. As a newbie, i was gaming at least 2-3 days a week solo (4 days a week currently, with wingmen on some days). On weekends (Saturdays & Sundays) i could easily spend a whole day + night gaming (anywhere from 3 to 6 hours). Are you putting in that kind of time? I suspect that right now pick-up is a hobby for you, as opposed to a lifestyle. Girls will congruence test aka shit test you, and are very good at picking up on a guy's incongruencies (misalignment in your thoughts, words, and actions). So you need to tighten this up by putting the work & hours in so that game becomes more internalized to you. Work on your inner game BIG TIME!


Also, i gamed the hottest chicks possible in the beginning. Girls who would normally be way out of my league. I largely didn't get anywhere with them other than a flaky number close, or an instant date at best. But i aimed real high , so that i could get myself more entitled with the HB7, 8, 9 and 10s over time. If i were you..i would add in more stories (either from real life experience, or made-up ones..doesn't really matter) into your pickup. Get good at multi-threading and routine stacking, so that you can extend your conversations with the girls further and further. Plow dude! Also, go for the insta-date if you feel that there is a good connection between you and the girl. This will make the number more solid when you try to follow-up with the girl for a possible Day 2 (the date).


Take it from me, as someone who has been at your current sticking point, and surpassed it. Your looks have little affect on the success or lack there of results. Looks would be more like the icing on the cake. Your game would be the actual pound cake. Looks-wise..just have clean clothes, smell good, and decent style, and maybe a fresh cut, and you should be good to go! Working out and dieting if you are currently out of shape couldn't hurt either.


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