Hi guys,

By way of introduction, I'm navigating, a 23-year old college graduate in Houston. Haven't really been part of the game, but I did read The Game 4-5 years ago. For the most part I've been too hopeless with the ladies to even attempt pickup. Now I'm at a point in my life where I really want to make things happen. Hobbies include art, cycling, traveling, reading, and Netflix. I'm on the path to becoming a doctor one day and have some pretty interesting life stories.

Some baggage of mine: For a while, I was convinced that I was gay, or bisexual. Haven't been sexually attracted to a girl in a long time, but occasionally it happens. Saw a therapist and now I think that I've basically convinced myself that I bat for the other team because I haven't had any romantic history with females. And part of me doesn't believe that I'm capable of being loved by a beautiful woman. Again, stuff I definitely need to work on, but at the moment I'm not exactly sure how.

Anyway, I matched with this beautiful girl on Tinder last weekend and started talking to her. I'll post the convo on here. I need MAJOR help because I presented an image of this sex god that I'm basically... not. (I'm not ashamed of being a virgin, but I obviously wouldn't advertise that fact on Tinder!)

M - Me
F - Her

M: Picture 3: Did you wake up like this?
F: Haha would you believe me if I said yes?
M: Not at all, but if so I'm way too jealous of your dog
M: Quite honestly you're exactly my type of lady and I don't want to waste time chatting on this app. What's your number?
F: Oh really? What's your type of lady
M: She loves dogs, wears suspenders at music festivals, and doesn't mind letting her hair down every now and then (always).
M: Also, she makes my dopamine levels go all out of whack
F: Haha..the latter is most important. Are you really 23?
M: And three-quarters. And you?
F: Lol yes I'm 23
M: Haha
M: So why nursing?
F: I come from a family of them and my school was paid for.. Plus it's great money for the hours. My work/life balance is perfect. I also genuinely enjoy teaching and nurturing people. No shift is the same so that's a plus.
M: Nice. On the interview trail for med schools I'm constantly asked about how we could improve health outcomes. Nurses are definitely in an ideal position to do so. Patient education is incredibly important.
M: I admire your passion, esp in a field where there's so much red tape and burnout
F: Couldn't agree more!

Hours later

F: So you looking into med schools or you've been accepted somewhere?
M: Nah acceptances don't go out till Nov 15, but I'm hoping to stay in town!
M: [NAME], want to play a game?
F: Depends.
F: What's the game
M: Basic question and answer game, with a fun twist
F: What's the twist
M: There are categories: 1) basic, 2) favorites, 3) sex/romance
F: Alright.. but I may be slow to respond because I'm reading
M: Haha alright. Top or bottom?
F: Bottom
M: Alright. We'll start with basics.
F: Ask away
M: You and I are together. It's the summer. We're planning a vacation. We can either go to the beach and party it up or go to the mountains, get a cabin, and have a romantic weekend.
F: All of the above lol
F: Mmm. Its summer so beach ...cabin for the winter.
M: Nice. I'd definitely pick the cabin all year but beaches can be fun too. Your turn, still on basics
F: In what state and city would you eventually like to settle down?
M: Denver, CO. I'd go skiing at night and cycling/rafting during the day. Also has more sunlight/year than SF or LA.
M: Now it's time for favorites. What's your favorite band?
F: Denver is hopefully my next stop:) Currently digging Hozier. All time favorite though is Alison Krauss and Union Station. She's bluegrass and I know all of her songs, but don't be deceived I don't like other country music.
F: Favorite guilty pleasure?
M: Hahah
M: I hate this question
M: Gossip Girl
F: Shut the front door.
F: I binged on that last winter.
F: Have you finished it?
M: In my defense the story lines were pretty well written. Blair and Chuck have the perfect rapport
M: Nah still on season 4, kinda lost interest
M: I binged while studying for finals haha
F: I've been looking for my Chuck....
F: You need to finish. It gets all sorts of crazy
M: Sucks, I'm more of a Nate
F: Boooring
M: Fair enough haha
M: It's time for sex
M: What's your favorite spot on your body to have kissed?
F: Neck is my weakness.. but no hickey
F: What do you find most attractive about your women?
M: There's nothing quite like that area
M: Hmmm
M: Exuberance. That feeling you exude when you're larger than life
M: What are your thoughts on relationships?
M: Jamming to No Place to Hide. Not baaad
F: Interesting.. I love them. I'm someone who nurtures them on all levels, because connecting with others is one of my highest priorities. Romantically, I hope for a lifetime partner to experience life with and grow into eachother, not apart. I value passion and determination equally. There has to be both for a healthy relationship.

(WHOA I love this girl.)

F: Cherry Wine is my favorite of Hozier's.. And Crazy Faith for Alison
M: It's a shame you're not into other country though. Shovels and Ropes is probably my favorite
M: Didn't really enjoy the genre till this summer, but the lyrics are typically way deeper
F: I do like them. I meant I don't like mainstream like Jason aldean and Luke Bryan. The lyrics have to move me if the music is going to be basic and with most country, both are too simple
F: Okay where are we?
M: Sex.
F: When do you feel it's appropriate to have sex with someone you're seeing?
M: You just know when the time is right. I like to let things simmer first
M: What's one thing you thought you wouldn't like but did, in bed?
F: Haha, Mmm...
M: Like I said, I like to let things simmer..
F: To appease, I suppose I was leery about being blindfolded and tied down.
M: Whoa. Not the good girl I expected whatsoever
M: Good thing I was looking for a Blair
F: Lady in the street...
M: Anastasia in the streets
M: Your turn. Back to basics.

30 min later

F: Do I need to pick another question?
M: Nah
M: Probably eating out a girl. I can literally get lost in there and just keep licking and sucking and fingering and...
M: I'd tongue fuck you for hours until I hear your muffled screams through your thighs
F: That wasn't my question. Wrong convo?
M: No I assumed you were asking me the same question I asked you?
F: Maybe my other texts didn't go through lol
F: Let's text. This app is annoying
M: Alright.
M: I'm --- --- ----. Text me

SHE TEXTED ME:
F: I liked the answer to your question much better than my original.
F: So would you say you're more of a giver in bed?
M: I thoroughly enjoyed your original
M: Let's just say I like my dessert
M: What are your doing tomorrow evening?
F: Lol nice..I'm not sure. I made plans with a friend last week, but I haven't heard from her.
F: You ask because?
M: I'd like to take you out for coffee at ____, 8:30.
M: We can meet after you hang out with your friend. And I also have one more question left before I head off to bed.
F: I would like to continue chatting before we meet up. Is that okay with you? And I guess now would be a good time to tell you I'm not a coffee drinker, lol. I'm also in bed by 9:30 nights before work.
old maid status. Go ahead...
M: haha alright. Let's continue talking tomorrow then. Night
F: What's your question?
M: Alright.
M: We're finishing up some foreplay and kissing a little. I'm biting your neck and kissing your shoulder. I then whisper in your ear, "get ready, I'm about to fuck you really rough!" What are you expecting?
F: I'm expecting how I like my sex...lol
F: Hitting me from behind. Choking me. Pulling my hair. Slapping my ass.
M: Like I said
M: You're my type of lady
M: Talk soon.
F: You probably flipped me over and held me down...made some eye contact then it was game over. Lol alright good night

How should I proceed from here? Yeah I know the texting game was on point but I need to cool things down a bit right? I have little to NO experience with sex. I also currently live at home so if I were to rent out a hotel/motel for us to bang in, but should I wait until a few dates in...? Thanks for all the tips!

you did an amazing job! you should meet up with her asap and feel things out, feel the mood out and see how fast you can take things sexually. if shes showing a lot of interest in you, reward her with a kiss as soon as possible (for simple good behavior) my reward system goes like this - forehead, temple, cheek, cheek/lips and then lips (3second kiss, max)

dont heavily make out with her until you're in a location where sex can happen.

it DOES NOT MATTER if youre a virgin, she doesnt need to know and by the time she figures it out youll already be inside its a lot easier to meet with a girl you have already had sex with than to find a new girl to have sex with

you should have seen if she could have hung out that night because it looks like she was out to get some dick right then and there. its almost bad that youre setting something up at arousal and then letting it go like that, with situations like that see what shes up to SPAM and go from there to see if she can hook up (without being too indirect)

ask her what her schedule looks like "what does your schedule look like this week?" this gets her to reveal her full schedule and you can make this spiderweb pit of doom and suck her in
if she doesnt work on friday and saturday but works on sunday try and aim for friday night and have it carry over to saturday morning (planning that its going to be a long night)



some notes for the future:
-see what shes up to that night, it gives you a clue on how long you can to talk with her
-get the number wayyy sooner
-figure out a date first and get her number for the reason to see her again
-never ever, ever meet up for coffee, thats really lame! go out for drinks at a modern/hip bar (not a club) because it sets the mood more than starbucks ...

over all great job and may the odds ever be in your favor

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Hey man,

Thanks for the advice! We went on an amazing date and I really enjoyed getting to know her. After, we went for ice cream and then to a bar, where we started to kiss. In person, since I'm much more of an easy-going, chill dude, I presented this entirely different image than online, but I don't think that was really an issue, until I got too forward at the bar. A few days passed and we agreed to have a second date soon.

Anyway, we talked today and she called it off, and also gave some constructive criticism on how I could improve on dates in the future, which is cool.

I think the date went perfectly till we hooked up, and I just didn't know what was appropriate or not for her (or me) on a first date, so I pushed the envelope a bit too much. Now I know better, but as a guy who wasn't really interested in the hookup, I sorta messed things up with an otherwise awesome gal.

Better to push it on the 1st date in my experience. Don't even think it's too soon to make a move regarding online dating

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