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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:44 pm 
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So this is my first post, although I've been lurking reading up for about a week now.
This really isn't my scene cause I've never been one to get around, but a friend suggested I get on here after hearing about my current situation.

To the meat though. I've recently reconnected with a friend I was sweet on in highschool. I saw her on Tinder while goofing around about a month ago. I swiped right and got an immediate match. So I just messaged her in my usual goofey way and let it rest till she got back to me.

Eventually she hit me up and we started messaging on facebook. Nothing serious just tag back and forth and getting to know each other (had been almost 5 years since we last talked).
I'm fairly bad at showing interest, but I let out my usual subliminal flirting that I usually do with all my female friends. Ended up escalating to where we are talking everyday or so. We have went on lunch meets during work breaks, worked out together, blah blah blah all the good friendsy stuff.

About a week ago while I was at work, we were doing our regular back and forth banter. And I dropped an all too obvious flirt. It was the first of its kind and I have to admit I was getting to it wayyyy too late. But I knew I was hitting the friendzone fast. So I put my cards on the table. She responded with "Um" and then "I didn't know you were". I finished off with "Interested? Of course". I really had wanted to ask her on a date in person, but I was on the spot so I did it then. I texted her saying she should go on a date with me. She told me she was just looking at me as a friend since she didn't have a whole lot and she was interested in someone else. I took it as it was and we continued texting.

I consulted with my friend, the one who referenced me to here, on the matter and he told me I was being overly friendly. So I decided to change my game up. Being more aloof and playing hot and cold, much bolder flirting now that my secret was out. Which worked or at least I like to think it did; because she started responding to me more and initiating contact more.

This is where I'm getting lost and my problem.
Three days ago we hung out pretty much all day after I got off work. I left work and went to the park with her to run, she is training for marathon. Then we went to her place afterwards to cook, we are teaching each other, she is into clean eating, vegetarian/vegan, and I'm a professional cook. (I've recently started a health initiative so I really appreciate her help.) Anyway once I get to her house I realize that she is flirting with me hardcore, like she has never done before, like the switch went from off to on. This was throwing me off because she said she wanted to just be friends. So I called her out on it, to which she admits that she likes the attention, so she flirts if she knows a guy is into it, and asks if she should stop. I told her hell no! We flirt on and off while we cook and chill around her house. Talk about past sexual experiences, and I end up hinting to her that I might just be fucking phenomenal in bed. Oh and she has this thing where she says she is Perfect and how she has super high self confidence. (and she does, but god she is so hot, and smart, so why wouldn't she)
So we hangout all that day and night her friend comes chills for a bit and then leaves around 12. So it's just me and her at her house, her dad is asleep. (I'm 20 she is 19.) I figure that she is going to go to bed or we might chill in her living room. But instead she invites me to her bedroom and closes the door. I'm super nervous because my experience level in all of this is super low. (Got out of a 4 year relationship around 5 months ago. My gaming exp is nil.) So I sit on the bed with her while she is snuggling up and we talk and bullshit. I work my way closer to her and start touching her ever so slightly. We sorta cuddle while we talk and then her dad wakes up and says it's time for me to leave. So I pack up and get ready to go, wish him a good night and then she walks me out. She talks to me for forever before I get on my bike and gives me a huge before I leave. I wanted to kiss her so fucking bad there cause I could feel the tension, but I choke. As she is walking away though I make a joke about it and she laughs and walks back inside. Then as I'm riding home she texts me asking if I would be butthurt if we fooled around without a relationship. I practically shit myself but tell her no I'd be game. She mentions how she has only ever had an orgasm once with a guy, so I'm fairly sure that is her goal for fooling around (no shit right). So the next day comes, I get there early before my gym session. She ends up having to make the first move because I'm nervous but after she kisses me it's go time. I give her what she was hinting at the previous night, enjoy myself and then we finish up right in time for me to hit the gym.

Now its weird for me, I've never done the fwb thing, and honestly I'm still just as sweet on her now as I was in highschool. She invites me over to hangout the next day as we had previously been doing and we cook and chill. Still flirty but nearly as much as before.

Yesterday we hang out again after I'm off work. Its late and its supposed to be at a party my friend is throwing although it ends up being just my four of us my bud and the girl and her friend. She pretty much has me on radio silence all night. She and I end up going to the kitchen to make some popcorn, and its the first time during the night that we really talk a lot. I can feel some tension and its almost like she is trying to keep me in the kitchen with her. I probably should've made a move, but I don't. We join back up with the friends, more hanging. End night.


I'm stuck guys. I'm so out of my area. I need advice or just some clarity on the situation. Did she just want an isolated quickie. Am I supposed to be making more of a move now? Or is it just too late.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:38 pm 
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You don't get the FWB thing

She comes over, you both fuck and watch half of a movie, then rinse and repeat every week

What you did is get her over to your place under the assumption that you want to Netflix , chill n fuck.

but instead, you're having a gathering with your friends eating popcorn together, this is what bf and gf's/ couple's do. Not fuck buddies, hence her reaction.

true FWB's don't want to meet your friends. They want your nuts in their guts.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:54 am 
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I don't mean to dismiss what you said. Because it could be that I'm just overlooking the situation. But atleast from my perspective, her and I are actually real friends. We definitely were before when we were younger, and seem to still act that way now.

And the party was very clear cut explained that she was being invited to an actual party with the people I had invited, and I explained to her that I didn't know who would show or not. So I don't think that is a Netflix and chill fakeroo.

Maybe the question I'm asking is too obscure or the real answer is just obvious. Maybe I shouldn't be pursuing this girl like this. But basically I'm asking you guys. Is there any situation here where I can make her come out more interested in me.

On one hand she is a decent friend (just started hanging out again), but has already been really kind; and I don't want to mess that up.

But in the other, she embodies a lot of the most important qualities I've wanted in a partner. And is my ideal body type.

She seems like she is still young and wild which I can respect. But I want advice on staying on good terms with her, friends but a viable option. I'm just having fun too. Am I a fucking retard?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:06 pm 
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Dude why are you playing the age card? She's one year younger than you, lol.
I read this entire topic and I somehow have no clue what it is you're asking.

The point of FWB is not you being a dildo with a pulse. It goes both ways. You want to fuck her, you make it known.
She wants to fuck you, she makes it known.

You're acting like a scrap dog. Basically waiting by the kitchen table, and if something falls off, great, you get a treat. Otherwise you sit there in silence and say nothing.

Other than that keep doing what you were previously doing together, except now you can have sex when you feel like it.
This isn't your typical fwb situation, because you did various activities together (as friends), before hooking up.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:16 pm 
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Ok I can tell you really like this girl. She is obviously into you but doesn't want anything serious. If you play it cool and just stick to the FWB script, you will no doubt get her as a gf. Just don't vomit any feelings you may have in the meantime. Also if you want to transition this girl into something more. I would keep any chit chat till you see each other. Don't text her or call her unless it is to set up the next time you're gonna get it on.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:18 am 
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Have fun with her and banter. She likes that you like her. She likes to tease you. Tease her, have fun, enjoy her company. Trying to escalate and kiss her won't work at this point.

You need to enjoy her company and be indifferent about getting with her. Tease her. Tell her she can't handle you. And study body language and eye contact. It's so much more important than words. When you show her alpha body language and you're indifferent she's going to get more interested - especially when you pass her tests. Don't hand over the power.

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