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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:01 pm 
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https://www.mgtow.com/the-sexodus-part- ... f-society/

This article is created by "Meninists" stating that the way society is built is a paradox. Women are blessed for being pure (even though they aren't) while men are blessed for having as many women as possible (according to this article, its a near impossibility for most men today.)

I just read this and I've been doing some reflecting...and I love this article.

I don't know if any of you guys have ever read the book The Road by Cormac McCarthy, but there is a recurring motif of "The Fire".

The fire is, in a sense, the will to survive, the will to hunt and find your treasure, and it is inside of you. I don't know if everyone has it...but I do.

I know I have the fire because from the past two years, being discontent with who I was has led me to become what I am today. I can succeed where others fail. I HAVE succeeded where others have failed. The 95% of men who fail with women in today's society, I can be phased out of it, because I simply have the fire in me, the will and the tools to join the 5%. I can talk to people without issue. I know no others my age with the ability to interact with strangers the way I do.

I love myself, and because I am strict with myself, I can achieve endless possibilities.

All I have to do now is practice and refine my ability to observe, build connection, stay relaxed....and stay positive.

And get a fire tattoo.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:42 am 
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I'm going to try and keep my posts shorter, they're getting too long. Until I make a major breakthrough....they'll be brief


Went to yoga, socialized ADMIRABLY with most of the people there on the way in, even made some good jokes to which I was genuinely laughing

Included a woman which I thought was young and hot, but then when she looked at me closer to mid 30's, and she told me she had a kid. she later introduced herself to me, because she likely respected that I made an observation about her in the lounge area, saying I thought she was a reporter the way she was looking around everywhere (used this from yesterday's observation exercise, told you it would work). I like the lounge area, I'm very comfortable there and game very well there. If only it was like that in the mall.

Went in the mall afterwards because I wanted to challenge my ego. I opened one girl and asked her if I looked high, because I just took a yoga class. She was on the phone, so obviously I couldnt get a full interaction. But I still got way too in my head and had to leave.

Tommorrow I train the dude, go out with a friend, and start my PUA journey officially. I have everything printed out and ready!

Also, I watched this video. It really hit home for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGp25fn ... EKUfFJgOcQ

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:39 pm 
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I did all three approaches.

After I trained that 15 year old guy (it went very well!) even though I overworked the fuck out of him that he puked after the workout, I went and started my own stuff.

There's a woman at the gym I always say "Hey, beautiful!" or "Hey, gorgeous!" when I see her. It takes guts, something I never do. Not an approach though.

I was benching and noticed what I thought was a qt 3.14 on a cardio machine. Opener = "Are these cardio machines good"? Demonstrated a good time constraint, body rocking. It wasn't until she started talking that I noticed...she was completely fucking insane. The facial expression she made, her speech patterns, it was like Forrest Gump if he had Cerebral Palsy and autism. Immediatly brought her down like 4 points for me. I self ejected after failing to make any normal conversation after I was so befuddled. Weirdest approach so far.


Made eye contact with an HB8 while on a different bench. Second time we made eye contact, I smiled and made a wave motion. She took out her earphones, and I yelled out "I Need your opinion!" She came over, and while I was sitting down, I asked about different ways to lose weight for my trainee, because I noticed she had a good physique (a sincere compliment). After about 3 minutes of talking workout, she looked back at her weights, so I ended the interaction. We exchanged names. I regret not commenting on her "professional" attitude, and wondering how it developed. I'm gonna say "Hey, pretty face" or something corny like that next time I see her.


Third approach = two girls at the entrance of a store, ready to open. I used the cologne opener. First girl refused to smell, second girl did it but seemed uninterested. I left afterwards. I think the reason it failed it because I didn't come in with a high enough energy, and it wasn't as friendly as a vibe as I should have presented. I'm going to smile more in my future approaches! :)

Tommorrow I'll be in downtown toronto, yoga, and if I have to, I'll go to the mall and do one.


I've been reading about frame control, and this article was fucking wicked. Really made me feel good about myself. http://www.puatraining.com/blog/short-g ... ur-reality

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:47 pm 
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I did all three approaches.

After I trained that 15 year old guy (it went very well!) even though I overworked the fuck out of him that he puked after the workout, I went and started my own stuff.

There's a woman at the gym I always say "Hey, beautiful!" or "Hey, gorgeous!" when I see her. It takes guts, something I never do. Not an approach though.

I was benching and noticed what I thought was a qt 3.14 on a cardio machine. Opener = "Are these cardio machines good"? Demonstrated a good time constraint, body rocking. It wasn't until she started talking that I noticed...she was completely fucking insane. The facial expression she made, her speech patterns, it was like Forrest Gump if he had Cerebral Palsy and autism. Immediatly brought her down like 4 points for me. I self ejected after failing to make any normal conversation after I was so befuddled. Weirdest approach so far.


Made eye contact with an HB8 while on a different bench. Second time we made eye contact, I smiled and made a wave motion. She took out her earphones, and I yelled out "I Need your opinion!" She came over, and while I was sitting down, I asked about different ways to lose weight for my trainee, because I noticed she had a good physique (a sincere compliment). After about 3 minutes of talking workout, she looked back at her weights, so I ended the interaction. We exchanged names. I regret not commenting on her "professional" attitude, and wondering how it developed. I'm gonna say "Hey, pretty face" or something corny like that next time I see her.


Third approach = two girls at the entrance of a store, ready to open. I used the cologne opener. First girl refused to smell, second girl did it but seemed uninterested. I left afterwards. I think the reason it failed it because I didn't come in with a high enough energy, and it wasn't as friendly as a vibe as I should have presented. I'm going to smile more in my future approaches! :)

Tommorrow I'll be in downtown toronto, yoga, and if I have to, I'll go to the mall and do one.


I've been reading about frame control, and this article was fucking wicked. Really made me feel good about myself. http://www.puatraining.com/blog/short-g ... ur-reality


Oh, and I planned that this coming Friday I will go to a local pub/bar as the official badass move of the week. No pressure, just gonna socialize and have fun, which I know I'm already awesome at. I don't want to place unneccessary pressure on myself JUST yet.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:28 pm 
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I did, two approaches today. Both at work.

Not doing the third. Not even going out anywhere tonight.

Something happened to me, so fucking scared, nearly vomited.

Drinking to dull the anxiety. Hopefully it sorts itself out.....Or else I'm fucked.

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This is good stuff man! You're much better than I am of recapping this stuff.

My only thoughts are that if you are stressing maybe you just set aside non-sarging time. Like sure take note of the girls, just carve out productive lifestyle stuff not relating to dating/PUA stuff.

To be honest, I feel at my best when I'm not doing ANY PUA stuff. Sure I get itches to put myself out there, and when it itches bad enough, I'll make some moves, but just like getting away from it is nice when you can.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:52 pm 
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This is good stuff man! You're much better than I am of recapping this stuff.

My only thoughts are that if you are stressing maybe you just set aside non-sarging time. Like sure take note of the girls, just carve out productive lifestyle stuff not relating to dating/PUA stuff.

To be honest, I feel at my best when I'm not doing ANY PUA stuff. Sure I get itches to put myself out there, and when it itches bad enough, I'll make some moves, but just like getting away from it is nice when you can.

Thanks for the advice dude. I did that today, while at the same time doing my approaches.

And whatever happened to me yesterday..I don't think it's going to affect me, so hopefully I'll be okay.

A woman where I tan said I haven't been there in a while (IOI?) After that I conversed with her and introduced myself, ALL while my mom was there. I always got the vibe that she looks at me as more than just another customer. Her name is Jessica (Mom later called me smooth, I've never really talked to a girl in front of my mom).

Went to visit the therapist today for the first time. I went to visit one about two years ago, but it was a time when I was denying I needed help, even though it was when I needed it even more compared to now. I lied to my parents about going, they thought I was going to a special doctor. I have my mom's support for the way I'm feeling, but not my dad's. He tells people about it in public, and makes fun of it, and it hits home. Anyways, I had no idea what to expect. I was actually in a good mood, and was afraid that I wouldn't be able to express why I feel the way I do (I was wrong). She kept asking why and why and why, until I finally wasn't able to answer and nearly broke into tears. It really made me take a look at myself. She told me I was lonely, and that when people are lonely they do things they normally wouldn't do. She also made me give her my word that I will never commit suicide, and that if I ever feel suicidal, that I will contact her, the hospital, my parents, whatever. I almost broke into tears when I signed it, because it means I have no way out anymore, and when I give someone my word, it means something to me. The only way out is to push through now.

I went to the gym today, and wanted to do approaches beforehand. Wussy'd out when I saw a 4-set, but once I got inside the gym, it all changed. I talked to a girl and used observation to point out that she's a beginner powerlifter, which she was. She was busy so conversation was hard to do.

Another girl whom I wasn't really attracted to (she looked like april from parks and recreation, mixed with Pepe the frog), but she was the only girl in the area anyways, and I came up with a really creative "I need you to cheer me on for this next PR set. Research shows that it truly works in squeezing out that last rep." It was bullshit at the time, but the adrenaline from having an open approach next to me definitely gave me the extra energy. After that I invited to teach her about the overhead press to which she agreed, and I was able to kino a little bit by spotting her and training her. We conversed a bit awkwardly after that, she was really low energy (like, to the point I didn't even like it). I went for a close for the hell of it, to which she agreed but said would be weird since she had a boyfriend. I just denied it after!

There you go, that was my day. If I see an opportunity I'll take it, and those "opportunities" are starting to become much more vague, instead of specific.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:07 am 
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First approach of the day was at yoga, sat down in the lounge said hey immediatly to a girl, and opened conversation by asking her what she was reading.

>magazine about health stuff
>talked to her about spirituality
>talked to her about my complaining bracelet (not allowed to complain for 21 days. if you do, switch wrists, and start over. Works really well, makes me much more positive, I suggest you try it.)
>cracked some jokes about drugs
>talked about a yoga fest called Wonderlust...I'm definitely going to one of these...
Didn't feel any real connection, but I introduced myself nonetheless.


The class...something fucking weird happened. A datass cougar gave me some SERIOUS IOI'S. She must have seen me talking to that girl in the lounge.

>laid her mat next to me
>smiled at each other at least 3 times during the class
>I high fived her at the end for fun, but she nearly grabbed my hand
>she leaned in to me while I was cleaning my mat
>introduced herself to me
>started asking if I come here a lot
>asked me if I usually come at night***********
>asked me if I'm spiritual after I asked her


I waited outside in the lounge for a good 25 minutes, so I could isolate her by bringing her to a store I told her about, and she told me she was really interested in going (bullshit, you're just attracted to me). She never came out, FUCK. But while I was waiting, at least 3 seperate different girls I didn't know just started talking to me. I was like...am I shiny or something?

I knew I couldn't let this chance pass. If I'm on fire tonight, I'd better get some approaches done.


Second approach, a british girl on her phone. She looked mean. Used the "I have a blind date and no idea what to expect" opener. She was in a hurry, so I couldn't stay.

Third approach. A girl with interesting hair, but at closer inspection, not attractive at all. She told me she was the wrong person to ask, so I complimented her hair and left. There was like, no sets at the mall, so fuck it.

I really want to try opening a two set.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:12 pm 
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I was SO close to quitting today. But fate stopped me. During the day I always stress over if I'm going to do my approaches or not. I finally came to the conclusion and said "Fuck it, I quit. I don't want to be nervous about this anymore." But when I was trying to install a device right after, it couldn't fit it. After 5 minutes of arduous stressing over it...I finally said "Okay. I'll keep doing my approaches. I know I made myself a promise, and I have to stick with it." And I tried again, and it worked. I continued to stress, but I pressed on.


So I went to the gym and did the ever reliable "cheer me on" opener. First woman I tried it was on the machine stairs (I'm retarded). Obviously she declined because she was on the stairs, and said she'll just cheer me on from there. The way she said it too, it was kinda snobby. My ego was fighting hard to make me feel like shit, but I just let it fuel my chinups. I kept telling myself "I'd have been a chump for NOT approaching, not for getting rejected".

Second time, SHE approached ME. The trainer who taught me different powerlifting techniques. She's actually very chatty, so it's easy to keep talking. We talked about my Ex GF and I flirted pretty heavy, for example when she said she felt bad for me, I told her "No you don't, you're happy now because you love me". I also used a GREAT observation technique today, because her hair was down and done up for once, so I said "What, did they let you out of the office early today?" I DHV'd major with this in the gym too, because I was sitting and she was standing. Too bad I was standing on the cable row, because a dude cockblocked me off the machine, and she had to leave so I could finish my last set.


Third set, was a FUCKING. TWO. SET. I was originally very afraid to do two sets, but I actually found it to be MUCH more relaxing...Because my opener was valid and actually true for once (I needed to buy a wedding gift), I managed to talk about a lot of different wedding stuff like what I was wearing, how drunk I'm going to get (they were actually at like four weddings this summer). It was a great set. I actually enjoyed talking to them.

I also ran into an old friend, her name is Luciana she's about 35 with kids, and we caught up a lot, and had a really great conversation. She mentioned she's participating in a crossfit event this weekend, and she wants me to come watch. Hopefully I have time to make it, I would love to watch!

Honestly, I had no idea how many friends I had. I always surprise the shit out of myself.

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If your dad (or anyone for that matter) feels the need to make fun of you for getting help, that's more of a reflection on them than you. If you were born near sighted and went to the doctor to get glasses, nobody would think twice. The brain is just another organ that can be treated clinically.

In my opinion, the "pick up persona" should be a diagnosable psychiatric condition in itself. It will make its way into the DSM VI...just watch!

Kidding...but not really. To be 100% honest with you, I have been much happier giving up pick up. I still go out, I still get phone numbers, I still fuck girls. But it's not "game" to me anymore. It's just part of being human...like it was the entire time.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:39 am 
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If your dad (or anyone for that matter) feels the need to make fun of you for getting help, that's more of a reflection on them than you. If you were born near sighted and went to the doctor to get glasses, nobody would think twice. The brain is just another organ that can be treated clinically.

In my opinion, the "pick up persona" should be a diagnosable psychiatric condition in itself. It will make its way into the DSM VI...just watch!

Kidding...but not really. To be 100% honest with you, I have been much happier giving up pick up. I still go out, I still get phone numbers, I still fuck girls. But it's not "game" to me anymore. It's just part of being human...like it was the entire time.
Thanks for the wise words Enso :) It really proves itself in today for me.

I didn't do any actual approaches, but...

I ran across an old female highschool classmate of mine. She was never really that friendly (some girls just aren't) and was really weirded out by me at first, but by keeping a friendly and joking persona I got her to at least be talkative with me. I'm not really into her, and wasn't really having fun, so I ejected and ate some sushi.

I decided to go tanning, after brutally battling with my mind that I HAVE to go to the bar tonight and face my fear. Get it over and done with. Then when I went tanning...I spoke to the same tanning girl I mentioned previously before, I think three days ago. I number closed her after having a long, extended chat about my halloween costume I'm making. It was inspired by someone on this forum named Stormy. I'm going to dress as a super douche, and I needed some small details to add in, so I got her to help me. She gave me lots of playful flirts, such as saying I'm her favourite customer, and when she negged me one time in front of a different customer, it's like in preschool how you only make fun of people you have a crush on. So after mentioning I "need her phone number written on my arm for part of my costume next week", she said she might as well just give me her number. I said "Ughhhhh fine" and got it in. This girl must be at least 25, I have no idea how the fuck this is possible. Must be my incredibly good confidence, because it isn't my baby face.

Also....I learned that girls gossip like crazy. Because I told another worker there that I wanted my ex girlfriend (while I was still seeing her) that she wanted a job there. And somehow this girl I was talking to NOW, knew. What the fuck...this is pretty insane.

I was dancing on the way to the bar, though. And I went and sat down. It wasn't that bad, I wanted to treat it like it was nothing, and it wasn't. I sat down, ordered a beer, and watched the game for a bit, and played with my phone. Nothing to it! Bars are fun :) The bartender and I played the age game, because she didn't even ID me, which is extremely surprising to me, because I ALWAYS get ID'd. I was really relaxed, and it was fun. I even reopened her without thinking about it, and said "Have you ever dated a spanish guy? What's a really sexy spanish last name?" because I was pretending to be a spanish guy to that tanning girl in my phone. I left after having one beer, because not only do I want to drive myself home, but the Blue Jays were losing and it was just meh. Maybe next time I go, there will be a girl near me.

Great victory acheived today. Well done, me.

I have a wedding tommorrow. Gonna dress up awesome with a vest and peacock with some shutter shades. Should be an awesome time for me, and I'm not going to place any pressure on me to go and approach if I don't want to :) I'll do what I'm comfortable with.

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That wedding had quite a few ups and downs, holy shit.

I was in a bad mood to get there to start with. Being super prepared and ready to go, but my parents weren't prepared at all, and I thought we were going to be late, so being the righteous fuck that I am, it fucked up my state quite a bit before we got there.

Walked in the room and it was a huge crowd, I was nervous as SHIT. I think I might have a bit of social anxiety. Now that I think about it, whenever I go to a club or a busy place, I HAVE to either get alcohol or some other drug like caffeine into me, otherwise I'll train wreck.

I met my non blood cousins who are super beautiful, but it's still kinda weird to be more than friends, so I just chilled.

After the ceremony, I was overthinking like crazy. I was really in my head, trying really hard to be social, and I felt a bit like shit.

I opened up two girls (I thought one of them was really young and cute, but turns out she was only 15). I said that I wanted to get married so bad after seeing the ceremony, and I told the other girl that she could be my wife, and I poked at her awkwardly. I just felt So. Fucking. Awkward. after that, and I had to eject.

I was terrified after we had to go to the dance. I felt really isolated because I was one of the few people who were single here. I don't know if that's a normal thing, but I became single by choice, yet I still feel so shit.

But when the dancing for everyone came on...I went to town immediately. I jumped in. I love to dance. I threw my shutter shades on, and i rocked that dance floor. I danced with every girl there, even the ones I was awkward with before. I even ended up grinding with the MC, and that was wicked. I got a little bit too into it though when I went for a picture with a girl and kissed her on the cheek, my aunt came up to me later and said she was married. I was like "Oh. Whoops." and kept dancing with her. But I just got so into my head, my dancing felt less authentic and fun after a while and I wanted to leave. Women started rejecting to dance with me, and while I feel careless about it now, at the time it really bothered me.

I just felt so awkward about everything when I got back to the hotel. I felt just like I did at that one house party I mentioned where I hit on the dude's girlfriend. I remembered that instance, and how stupid it was for me to feel that way.

The wedding was yesterday, and I just felt like shit all day today up until around now. I was nowhere near in state enough to talk to girls today, let alone anybody. I've been reading a lot of self help stuff, trying to figure out what its going to take for me to help build a foundation of self esteem and good confidence. I need to step off doing this "three approaches a day" approaches, I seriously do. I'm obviously still going to talk to girls but I'm just so out of my mind lately I can't even handle life anymore.

I'll be honest, I actually broke down on the floor, and called a suicide hotline today. I cancelled halfway through and got nervous as fuck, I didn't even know what to say. I really need to just work on me and my passions for a a while, and put everything back together. One video that worked really well for me today was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTjww638BM8

I'll stay posted on how I'm feeling over time. My next psyciatrist appointment is in about two weeks, and I seriously can't wait for what kind of exercises/homework she has planned for me.

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It's been about a week, here's what I've been up to.

I approached a three set and rocked the shit out of it with a "Where can I buy some polos for my guido outfit this halloween?" opener. I invited them all to come get dinner with me, but they just ate, so I ejected with a group hug (couldn't get any numbers, they were all too young).

For my official badass move of the week, I wanted to completely fill my arm with phone numbers written in marker. So I went around my yoga studio and got women to do it for me. I didn't feel fulfilled though, so I went inside and looked for two or three sets, and had no luck. I started getting nervous, and to combat that I randomly starting talking to some dude selling paintball tickets, and I talked to him about my favourite game modes etc. It warmed me up more socially. Then I left, and locked eyes with two girls who were dressed so fucking sexy in their costumes, I wasn't even nervous, I had to go and get their numbers on me. I even snatched a picture together with them after, and grabbed them both by their waists. She wanted to write her number on my chest since my arms were full, but I told her to just do it on my abs.

I also went to a halloween party that my friends invited me to. It was small, and there was like, 3 girls, all of whom were spoken for. Either way, it was fun, but I don't know if its because of drinking alcohol, or just large social gatherings in general, but a pattern is that I just feel like SHIT after, even if I had a good time.


In general I find that it is just getting easier to talk to girls now. I'm learning to stay the fuck out of my head, ground myself, and because I only approach if I want to, I don't feel like a slave to my ego as much.

Even while I was at the party, whenever I got into my head, I just felt the presence of my entire body in the room, and focused on what was around me. This meditation is really helping!

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Small update, about 5 days later.

During the week I met a really cute girl at my work, and we had a good interaction. I wasn't nervous at all, and I don't think I could have done it better.

The next day I came across her, I took her hand held up in the air, and told her to come to lunch with me. She had a boyfriend, so she couldn't. My ego tried damn hard to convince me that she was simply not interested in me and no girl is interested in me, but I held my ground.

The next day I saw her, she was cleaning some windows, and I did the "call me symbol" right in front of her from the other side, and we both laughed. I went inside and said 'How you doin, beautiful?" Wow!

And for my cringiest action of all time: Went to yoga, and a cute asian girl said hi. I was feeling a little bit too good, and said 'Nice uh....nice banana." and smiled after I propped her. She said uhh....thanks. and walked away. I was just trying to be funny, but goddamn that was awkward as hell.

I'm supposed to have an online date this saturday. I don't know if I like her yet though, she'll have to prove herself to me. It's honestly gotten to that point where I do have at least SOME standards now..



I've also learned that social warmups are GREAT before approaches! By having a fun, lighthearted pressure free conversation with anyone, my approach anxiety goes WAY down, because it puts me into "social mode".

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I approached one girl today wearing some funky boots, and my date's gonna be on Sunday.

I went to that bar btw. There wasn't really any girls, and I ended up getting sat in a corner with no one to really talk to. I got pretty nervous and left..

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