I had a date with an HB8...that when great, mainly because we picked on people most of the time.

We went to the mall, and had a burger, and this fat guy came into the burger venue and asked for this huge super sized mega burger....and a diet soda.

Me: "Wow...that guy really knows hot to stay fit....a diet coke"

She laughed...and since then we make fun of everyone in the mall.

HB8 "OMG look at taht lady!!! thats gotta be the ugliest dress ever!!! looks like she is wearing a curtain!!

Me: "And that security guard's moustache, looks like Yosemite Sam!!"

I know those are negative comments, and that negative is usually bad for pick up, but she seems to enjoy it.

I felt it worked like a DHV....Do you think is smart to use this?

I know it doesnt work on the early stages, cause it would be seen as try hard and selfish.

It sounds to me like you are building conspiracy, which can be very powerful! It creates an US -vs- THEM type of mentality and brings the two of you closer together.

I don't view it as being negative, as long as you are smiling and laughing when pointing these things out. Also, you've created a ton of inside jokes (Imagine ordering a Large popcorn extra butter, Candy Bar, Hot Dog, Nachos and a Diet Coke, she'll crack up!).

All in all, good stuff!

When I find myself doing that kind of stuff, it's really not that I actually beleive all the things I'm saying its more of creating a fun SPAM, where you can joke and be honest.

What you're doing is Neg-Hits. It's not necessarily bad but alittle insultive if the person over hears you speaking about them. Is it good? Is it bad? What do you think?

You know it's not very attractive to be sooo ignorant.

DOesn't it seem like you're under attack and make you realize your flaw? What I just did was NEG-HIT. It was a ACITON NEG-HIT.

The neg-hit i like most of yours is, "Hey that security guard's mustache--kinda looks like ...." Now that was a good neg-hit. But when you neg-hit you're suppost to neg the HB, not anyone else. What are you trying to attract the old lady, the security guard, or fat guy? NEG-HITS are usually to get a HB attracted to you.

I'm surprised the HB didn't view that as a DLV. A classy woman wouldn't go for that. She'll just think you're a inconsiderate ass hole. Seriously man!

I'm here to help not fuck up things.

If you really want to have fun and AMOG-goto the PUA chat with the guys! We'll have some good times together! What you're doing actually is AMOGing the people around you. You're showing her that you couldn't care less what people think or whatever. You're also showing her a fun time as well by AMOG'ing.

You must be the classic alpha male man, I mean look at you! Who in their right mind would wanna fuck with you! I bet when you eat spinich you become like Popeye, don't you?

Okay, don't shit your pants! LOL! I'm just AMOG'ing you. Don't take me to offense though man-I'm only here to help. Take care man!

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Ok....it is a little rude, and even mean to other people but it worked.

I think that it worked because I make her get in our private "conspiracy".

I dont think it is necessarily a DLV..... but you have to be careful on who you use it, cause the girl might get upset.

I had a laugh with her.... and thats all that matters. Besides, I wasnt negging the girl, we were past atracction phase.

I meant this post as a suggestion of a comfort building routine, you can try it to see if it works.

RedMole, I watch alot of Comedy Central, and I absolutely love South Park, Colbert Report, and alot of the standup specials they have because the negging/insult comics just draw me in and I find them absolutely hilarious. All the roasts they do really match up to my "bust and see if you bust back" personality.

I actually have trouble with negs because of this so be careful guys

It's definitely a good idea to get past attraction and use this in the Comfort Phase and I respect your use of this aspect in your game. Excellent post sir!

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In my point of view, there are two things you can do.

1. Lead the negs from the people around you to her. First neg-hit a person or two and let them do one too. After her first or second neg-hit you neg her with something like: Yeah, that´s right. But hey! look at your scarf (or whatever) my grandmother used to wear one just like that. Now she will know you are teasing her.

2. Make her feel guilty for laughing at your first neg. If you said something like the first line you wrote with the fat guy. If she laughs, look disapointed at her and say: You know, I have a cousin that has a weight problem and he just hates when people laugh at him. Then right before she has a chance to answer say: I know it´s bad, but I agree. It is fucking funny. And then burst out laughing.

So these two variations turn the insults into attraction.