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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:05 am 
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TheMajikalMethod.com ... Unless you're both agreed on an open relationship... NO.....
Monogamy isn't non-existant. Some of us like to be leaders and providers, not hand our dicks off to charity brothel workers.

Or maybe I'm just the only one here looking for monogamy, in the long term of things, I don't know.
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I'm sure this guy has narcissistic personality disorder lol. Redstar, is that you!?

Nah, I'm not gonna have a dig. I get a bit controlling sometimes. Even to this day I find myself getting jealous of a girls past lovers, if I get too serious with her. Some problems are hard to overcome... just looks like this guy has some kind of anger going on. I'd guess he got fucked over by a girl at some point, quite badly.

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DW-Heart-Charmer I love that advice.

"What if you were the guy that a women would do absolutely anything for? If you had zero neediness and could get any girl, sure she might mean something to you, but you know that she is completely replaceable. You also know that you are better than any other guy she has a chance with."
This is quite literally how I think. And therefore, why I choose not to have women sleep with me, and other men on the side. My value's just way too high. If I was dating a girl (for more than a month I mean) and I ever knew that she did what that gal did with you (kissing you) on that Wednesday, I'd look her direct in the eye, and say "you had the best, now have the rest" and have her replaced the very next day by a 10x hotter, smarter, and more deserving woman. That is what my definition of a true alpha male.
What need would a woman who would do anything for me have to get some extra lays on the side, after being with me? Shed just be a waste of my time, energy, mind, body, and soul.

Maybe one day I will think on a different frequency and not have a problem with it, but who I am currently, I'd like my girls loyal to me, if they want all of me.

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This is quite literally how I think. And therefore, why I choose not to have women sleep with me, and other men on the side. My value's just way too high. If I was dating a girl (for more than a month I mean) and I ever knew that she did what that gal did with you (kissing you) on that Wednesday, I'd look her direct in the eye, and say "you had the best, now have the rest" and have her replaced the very next day by a 10x hotter, smarter, and more deserving woman. That is what my definition of a true alpha male.
When reading this I thought of old kings. Ones who would have hundreds of wives and concubines back in the old days, Egypt and shit, they would demand their women to be exclusive and would kill the women and men if they were not.

One of the detriments that coming from the place of "your value being to high" can have in this situation Is having your value be related to her actions. Just saying something such as "you had the best, now have the rest" is having to prove something to someone. A place of non-neediness is not having to show anyone anything. Is it really true that her actions mean something about you? Could this be the reason you have to get rid of her?

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This is quite literally how I think. And therefore, why I choose not to have women sleep with me, and other men on the side. My value's just way too high. If I was dating a girl (for more than a month I mean) and I ever knew that she did what that gal did with you (kissing you) on that Wednesday, I'd look her direct in the eye, and say "you had the best, now have the rest" and have her replaced the very next day by a 10x hotter, smarter, and more deserving woman. That is what my definition of a true alpha male.
When reading this I thought of old kings. Ones who would have hundreds of wives and concubines back in the old days, Egypt and shit, they would demand their women to be exclusive and would kill the women and men if they were not.

One of the detriments that coming from the place of "your value being to high" can have in this situation Is having your value be related to her actions. Just saying something such as "you had the best, now have the rest" is having to prove something to someone. A place of non-neediness is not having to show anyone anything. Is it really true that her actions mean something about you? Could this be the reason you have to get rid of her?
I used to be like him. He doesn't ACTUALLY mean it. It's a mask to cover insecurity by displaying the complete opposite. I used to say things like "A girl who has fucked over 10 guys, has missed the opportunity to have a guy like me in her life." or assume girls were "too stupid for my jokes" if they didn't find me funny. This guy will grow out of it eventually.

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"A girl who has fucked over 10 guys, has missed the opportunity to have a guy like me in her life."

Incorrect. A girl's history has no factor in her present value to me.

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Also, the majority of ppl responding to this thread seem to be fine with open relationships, which I completely understand, but is not fine with me.
Is that not plausible these days? Am I missing something?

I'm here to give, and get guidance.

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Also, the majority of ppl responding to this thread seem to be fine with open relationships, which I completely understand, but is not fine with me.
Is that not plausible these days? Am I missing something?

I'm here to give, and get guidance.
What are you looking for? Im honestly confused. Are you looking for a way to make your gfs loyal? Or a way to make girls you date only date you?


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The first one

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I used to be like him. He doesn't ACTUALLY mean it. It's a mask to cover insecurity by displaying the complete opposite. I used to say things like "A girl who has fucked over 10 guys, has missed the opportunity to have a guy like me in her life." or assume girls were "too stupid for my jokes" if they didn't find me funny. This guy will grow out of it eventually.
Exactly this! The jokes are a perfect parallel.
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Is that not plausible these days? Am I missing something?
For the frame you stated, "I would drop her and have a new more deserving hotter girl instantly." No this is not plausible. Women are the way they are. Not all women but the majority of women.
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Also, the majority of ppl responding to this thread seem to be fine with open relationships, which I completely understand, but is not fine with me.
Is that not plausible these days? Am I missing something?

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No problem with this, but the question comes to why you would be more okay with a closed relationship rather than an open one. The answer is only yours and I fully support it when it comes from a position of knowing it to be the best way and acting accordingly and not of insecurity. For most men the biggest reason for them to ever get into a closed relationship is this insecurity.

It is likely that you see this as a simple distinction such as I like blondes better and you like brunettes better, but a more accurate description is the guy who doesn't believe he can get super hot girls all the time. He actually likes the lower tier because its safe and his insecurities keep him away from the hotter girls and he would never really know what it is like to have it better.

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If you want a woman who believes in monogamy, then just screen for it. Women and people are different. There is no one size fits all answer for making a woman only want you and sleep with you. If you're talking about actual gfs and you have a problem with them bouncing to other guys then thats a whole other thing.


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DW-Heart-Charmer your communication is spot-on. I like discussing this topic with you, you make some valid points. If I may ask, how old are you? If I'm guessing, I'd say 19-21 just because of your college takeover blogs, but was just wondering.
I'm 26.

Neo87 thank you too for your advice.

I'm just seeking the true alpha male approach on life. Cheers mates

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If you want a woman who believes in monogamy, then just screen for it. Women and people are different. There is no one size fits all answer for making a woman only want you and sleep with you.
This is terrible advise. How are you going to screen for a girl who believes in monogamy? 99% in America do, and if they don't you will easily be able to convince them of it. What questions are you going to ask? Usually it will "be what are you looking for" and you will often get either "Just looking for fun." or "I would like to meet someone, but I am not attached to that." Either way it doesn't matter and the OP isn't likely to drop a girl because she says she is looking for fun. This is not going to get the OP closer to the goal of a woman who is committed to him or filling that need. But this is not the main issue here and more importantly this is not addressing the presenting problem the OP has with the desire of having 'zero neediness' and being totally secure. If you were to suggest solving that problem with screening you could say that he should screen for women who are dependent, the ones with little value of self worth so that they will be easily committed to him and only him, however I believe this would only be a band aid to the symptom that would likely cause other problems whereas the real problem lies in an insecurity issue that the OP will be better off solving.

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DW-Heart-Charmer your communication is spot-on. I like discussing this topic with you, you make some valid points. If I may ask, how old are you? If I'm guessing, I'd say 19-21 just because of your college takeover blogs, but was just wondering.
I'm 26.
I'm 23 now. I realized that all of these things, any problem that someone is having in game is an inner game issue. This is very hard for most men to even consider these things, largely because of society and those insecurities, jealousy and thoughts of she has to be mine, so props to you for hanging in there and hearing out new ideas.
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If you look around there are a few approaches to this. Commonly I see the alpha male that is out is confident and totally controlling of his woman. He is incredibly jealous and has to have his woman be only about him. If another man talks to her at the club he gets all kind of butt heart. I just decided a while ago that I wanted to be the alpha male without this neediness and insecurity. The one that let's her do whatever she wants because I am going to do whatever I want. Interestingly enough this brings her even more close to you than if you took possession of her, they often don't even want other guys when you come from this frame, and the added benefit is I don't have to know what she does. I don't have to check up on her and care what she is doing. If she does something, whatever it is, the only way I really have to be concerned is if it makes a negative impact on my life. That is just better for me.

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"I just decided a while ago that I wanted to be the alpha male without this neediness and insecurity. The one that let's her do whatever she wants because I am going to do whatever I want. Interestingly enough this brings her even more close to you than if you took possession of her, they often don't even want other guys when you come from this frame"

Excellent! This answers my original question I first posted on this thread perfectly.

"and the added benefit is I don't have to know what she does. I don't have to check up on her and care what she is doing. If she does something, whatever it is, the only way I really have to be concerned is if it makes a negative impact on my life. That is just better for me."

Again, exactly how I think. She can do whatever she wants when she wants. EXCEPT fuck, or make out with other guys. Both of these things would make a negative impact my life. Now she can flirt, talk, hang out, hug, sit on laps, tease, whatever the fuck. Just not fuck or kiss anyone else but me, if she wants to be with me. Unless she has my permission (three some situation, etc.)
Now I wouldn't beat her, or kill her, or get "butt hurt" if she did. I'd just say "see ya" and move on. I have better things to do. No pun intended.

Now ppl on this thread are saying that's a stupid frame of mind.

Are you trying to say that perfect 10s with high value will always be fucking multiple guys, their whole lives, and I need to accept that? Is that what you're trying to get at?

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To add, I've had countless exes want me right back after they went and layed other guys, by presenting a no-fucks-given confident alpha frame.
And very very few of them have gotten to fuck me again. Because it takes more from them, than a little "sorry baby I fcked up take me back :("
That's my value.

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