Last night me and a work buddy went to a bar just cause. I was kinda sitting around watching people. I seem to be learning a lot about signals this way. It is very interesting, the things I am noticing lately. My friend had the hottest blonde just come up and sit on his lap and start chatting him up a bit (although she was pretty hammered) before she flew away just as easily. That bastard, I don't know how this shit just happens to him, even though that one got away.



Anyway, while I was watching people, I noticed this one girl in a white top with plenty of breast to spare. She was dancing around, and I noticed that she was trying to kinda dance up on some guys. It was very strange, to see that every guy she was trying to dance up on, kinda shunned her or accidentally ignored her. It was very strange. I saw HER chasing GUYS, and GUYS running. She seemed... disappointed?


So I was about to walk up to her and maybe try to dance with her, but on the way over, I stopped. Something was wrong here. Here was this girl, chasing guys. And yet, despite this, I found myself about to chase. As much as a sure thing as the situation may have seemed, I somewhat saw myself as chasing this girl if I walked up to her. I felt weak. I felt needy. I felt like it was not going to work.


After all, the other chick did walk up to my friend, and this dancing chick was trying to walk up to other guys. Why not wait for a girl to come to/chase after me? Isint that what is supposed to be happening? I mean sure its not happening, but I am not sure why, when it clearly happened to my friend and was happening to the dudes the dancing chick was trying to dance up to. Maybe I don't have the words to fully encompass what I am trying to say here. I just wish I could approach without feeling like I am chasing, and having that feeling kill it for me.

Women chase guys, that's not news. It's their job to put themselves in the position of being seduced. Some do it like the blond girl, in a direct manner. That's easy to see.
Others (most) do it indirectly, like the white top girl or even more covert. And as men we're for the most part way to stupid as a "species" to pick up on these subtleties.
That's stupid.
Does the predator feel weak when it goes after it's prey? Does it feel needy? Does it wait for his meal to throw itself at it?
He's the top of the food chain. He acts like it. He's not weak for going on the hunt. He'd be weak for hesitating. He'd be weak for feeling unworthy of his prey.
No, it's not "how it's supposed to happen". You're supposed to be a man and go for what you want in life. You're supposed to be the guy she can proudly tell all her friends about.
Sometimes they'll try making your life easier, doing part of the job for you because your ass can't be bothered to take action.
But if you find her attractive and still she's the one that has to be the man about it, that's not something to aim for or be proud about.

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Let us know how that works out for you in a few months.

There is a difference between girls chasing and girls approaching you. For example I approached and got a quick number Saturday night and the next morning she is texting me. I am only replying to her = she is chasing me. I approached and attracted. Now it's balanced and she is now chasing me. Girls are very subtle but most guys are obviously to the subtle things. A girl giving proximity is chasing but not approaching.

What Chapelle could of done, is dance like those other guys that are having fun and wait for that girl to give him proximity and then make open smoothly as opposed to higher pressured sniper approaching that he is feeling.

I feel that Chapelle is a crazy deep thinker, that's probably his flaw in hindsight to this report. Sounds like he needs to loosen up and not treat this like a full time job. It's all so intense. He is watching people for one. He is sucked into their reality. He isn't bringing the party. Those guys that were getting IOI's from the hotty, I will guarantee that they were having fun and concentrated on themselves being the party. So, imagine, if he was to adopt this mindset but with the element of escalation to capitalise on these subtle opportunities that girls give out all the time. Could be a dangerous combination, I can testify to this. This could be the final puzzle piece to his game.

I'm all for doing it as much as you can when you 1st get into this game. But there will come a evolution stage. Where you balance it out and to not go looking for sex solely. No faking it. Detached from TRUE outcome and mean it to the core. If you go home with no numbers or sex, you're not frustrated about it. You just know you have good night and bad nights. No biggy, you know there is trucks load of pussy that will come.

RC is speaking sense about the whole predator thing, yes. It can feel chodey to approach like that, but it feels more chodey when you don't try at all.

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Of course there is.

Op is expecting to be prized; more specifically have the woman ask him out. It wont happen.

His friend IS being approached, he is watching girls put it on a plate for guys and they are clueless, so it can happen because he has seen it with his own 2 eye's from this report...

My point is, if he is in' people watching mode' and comparing himself to everybody...it is as you say., it won't happen at all. Which you're right. Now if he was to copy those people who are having fun and not analysing every minuscule atom to the interaction, then he will be presented with oppurtunites (like having insta sex in his car again)

I am not disagreeing with you at all. I'm just trying to change his behaviour in that environment. Because I am one of those guys that he talks about. But I capitalise on the clues instead of wussing out like the AFC chodes.

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I think what I am really trying to get at here is figuring out a way to never be the one to be chasing. I almost always ALWAYS end up chasing, and at least I catch myself midway a lot of the times, but then I am at a loss for what TO do. I just quit on the spot. The bigger problem is, I think, that I never seem to realize when it is I begin chasing.


I certainly don't think I can ever be the guy whos bringing the party. Way too introverted for that shit. I still can't hold a decent conversation to save my life. That also feels like chasing to me, like I am trying to impress someone. These last few girls I was/am with, I kinda... I don't know, I just barely introduced myself, allowed them to fill in the silences, and casually led them around until it was time to become obvious. I am not quite sure how it worked, except that I was somewhat present, and she made it work.


But yea I think the point I am trying to get at is I am not sure how to get them and keep them chasing. That girl who sat in my friend's lap made herself available for a good moment, and then she just flew away, leaving us both wondering what was happening. Honestly, I might have done what he did which was kinda be non reactive... maybe given her The Look and told her I am a salsa dancer, and that Id love to put the moves on her. If I could have been that smooth in the moment lol. Just wish I knew how to get a girl to chase without ending up being the chaser.




Oh, as an interesting side note, the bar we went to is near the beach, and after it closed we were drunk and just went for a walk to the shore, and it was funny cause there were a bunch of people just banging in various places. We were like walking up on some of em and watching all drunk like "is this for real right now?" Dudes must be really in the moment with these girls. Interesting to confirm how quickly and publicly a lay can happen lol. If I ever spit some decent game around these bars I might go for a bang like this.

Your intensifying desire will get you there soon enough. Most guys with girl problems on here seldom reach the point where you're now. They lack... DESIRE. They lack passion which you now have growing in intensity.

Just do what you have to do. Banging on the sand in a beach or amidst the salty water is fun.

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Lol this happens all the time. Most guys are fucking clueless yet they complain they can't get laid. I respect when I see a girl taking initiate like that and I feel bad when no guys want to play ball.

They give that look that a puppy from the store gives you when you don't take it home. Don't let the puppy down

Not sure if night clubs are for the OP...

you won't see many club promoters in their element in libraries. I am imagine the OP hates every single that he is in a night club

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Dear lord...taking initiative is not chasing. Chasing implies whatever you chase is running AWAY from you a/k/a a girl who is just not interested at all but you keep going.

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THAT.... put things into perspective very well. Thank you.