How NOT to be NICE?



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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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 Post subject: Re: How NOT to be NICE?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:30 am 
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Amazing points, guys and I see your points.

Now that it's established it's more about being congruence than anything else. How do you reach there? I mean I have a lot going for myself and I'm at a stage where I feel peaceful with myself(which i didn't until 8 months ago). Now how to reach the next level of being CENTERED, GROUNDED and coming from a buyers frame than being seller?

It looks counter intuitive when you approach a girl, put yourself out there and still not be a seller. How to make your frame like that? Just practice? Or how to me more confident and assertive in general, not just with girls? Because I feel like if you're that confident guy everywhere it will start to show!

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Amazing points, guys and I see your points.

Now that it's established it's more about being congruence than anything else. How do you reach there? I mean I have a lot going for myself and I'm at a stage where I feel peaceful with myself(which i didn't until 8 months ago). Now how to reach the next level of being CENTERED, GROUNDED and coming from a buyers frame than being seller?

It looks counter intuitive when you approach a girl, put yourself out there and still not be a seller. How to make your frame like that? Just practice? Or how to me more confident and assertive in general, not just with girls? Because I feel like if you're that confident guy everywhere it will start to show!
If you are cold approaching a chick, you are doing so because she is hot or looks interesting. However, you don't know a single thing about her yet. So the subtext of your interaction is that you want to then determine if she's a cool chick and someone worth pursuing. In this aspect, you are buying...not selling. Just because a girl is hot doesn't mean she is worth chasing after.

If you approach a random girl, you convey high status by being honest with what you are doing and being okay if she says no. Approaching a random girl on the street is always a hail mary play. The pick up schools tend to make cold approaching the bread and butter of seduction, but the truth is that it is not an optimal way to meet women. Meeting random girls is more sorting than "gaming" really. Your goal is to sort through girls that are "no's" and get to girls that are "maybes" and "yes's". The "warmer" an approach is (the more you know the chick and the more you are socially connected in some context) the better your chances become in sparking a connection (typically).

How do you become more confident overall? By being vulnerable.

A vulnerable man:
Stands tall, looks people in the eye when he talks to them.
Says what he thinks and is comfortable if some people disagree with him.
When he makes a mistake, he shrugs it off and apologizes if necessary.
When he isn't good at something, he admits it.
He's unafraid to express his emotions even if that means getting "rejected" sometimes.
He has no problem moving on to people who don't reject him and like him for who he is.

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Now how to reach the next level of....coming from a buyers frame than being seller?
Men being predominantly logical creatures are more confident in the things that they know and commonly fear the unknown. For instance, if you don't know how to swim and lacked any exercise for the last five years then you will naturally fear for your life when you're dropped off a boat into the ocean 2 kilometers away from the shore. On the other hand, if you know how to swim and are physically fit, then it would be easy for you to swim back to the shore.

In your mind, you have to know that in human courtship or mating rituals it is women who initiate the courtship. There are several scientific researches on this from several well respected and well cited scientists like Karl Grammer. Women wear lipstick, mini skirts, skinny jeans and push up bras for a reason. They look at you with lust in their eyes for a reason. Those come on signs are plain advertising and yet most men fall into the frame of sellers instead of buyers.

Once you get your mindset fixed with this scientific empirical fact, you have to train your body to react properly as a buyer.

When a woman looks at you with lust in her eyes, mirror her. Do the same! Go near her (the seller) and evaluate the fitness of the merchandise according to your standards as a buyer. If the seller does not meet your standards, walk away.

Again. Fix your mindset and train your body. Your body needs several repetitions until the actions become reflexive. It's like confidently delivering the roundhouse kick to the head. You'll need some 5 to 10 thousand repetitions of the kick before you can comfortably deliver the head kick to a resisting, moving opponent and probably another 10 thousand repetitions to develop enough power to knock him out. When everything becomes a reflex, then you will be very comfortable in the buyer's frame.

In summary, approach several thousand women until this becomes reflexive. Knowledge without action (or with very few action) is useless.

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You stop being so nice when you stop giving a fuck if people like you or not.


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Don't go out of your way doing shit for people who haven't earned that level of investment from you. It's that easy.

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You stop being so nice when you stop giving a fuck if people like you or not.
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