Hey guys,

Thanks for the help on this forum. I appreciate it. I'm in my 30's and I'm in the process of going from a washed out burnout loser to trying to become a player.

Since starting on this forum, this is what I have accomplished:

I completely revamped my wardrobe. I spent a couple of days observing people at the mall and making notes. Then I went and got some magazines and analyzed what celebrities were wearing, and looked for trends. I got two pairs of new shoes and broke out an old worn-out pair of Converse Chuck Taylor shoes because I studied enough fashion to realize they were back in style. Funny enough, I get more compliments on these old shoes than the new ones. I got sunglasses that compliment my face. I took all of my shirts to the tailor and got the sides fitted to my body. I got new belts. I got my old Seiko titanium watch fixed with a new crystal and band, so that it looks brand now. I got some shorts from BR, and stopped wearing shorts from the thrift store. I started experimenting with color combinations I wasn't sure about, and would have never tried before, and came up with some pretty cool looks for myself.

The girl who cuts my hair, who I have asked out twice, and who has rejected me twice, finally admitted that she thinks I look good and that I would definitely meet somebody when I took a trip to Chicago. It was a surprise that she started mentioning this to me, and I actually got pissed because I thought she was being nosy or trying to console me because she felt bad for rejecting me earlier. I realized, later, that she was just trying to pay me a compliment. Beginner's tip: if you can deal with the awkwardness of rejection, keep talking to the same girl who rejected you.. she may give you some useful tips on what is and isn't working for you.

I took a trip to Chicago on my own. I hadn't left my hometown in years and was nervous as fuck. I thought the place would eat me alive. But, I actually got out and saw a lot of cool shit and came back with some pretty funny stories. While in Chicago, I visited a true nightclub for the first time in at least 10 years. I didn't think I would even be let in, for some reason. I honestly thought the bouncers were not going to let me in. That's how low my self image was, even though I was wearing great clothes. I did go in. While in the club, some decent looking girl grabbed at my chest as she was passing me by. I took off and went to another club because I wanted to hear some good house music and I wasn't happy with the DJ at the first club. Big mistake. Not as many girls at the second club, but the music was good, so I actually got on the dancefloor and danced.

Once home, I started going to a local nightclub I had previously been afraid to go into. Before, I had actually gotten dressed and ready to go to the club, but I showed up at the club and I couldn't make myself walk into the door. I was afraid. This was before Chicago. After getting back from Chicago, for some reason, my confidence was higher, so I went in by myself, finally. I didn't care for the music too much but I tried to tolerate it. I had a few beers and took a look around. Lots of hot girls in there. In their 20's mostly. A girl closer to my age did the proximity thing... came up by herself and stood next to me, walked away when I walked away... Didn't do an opener but I knew that was the time to do one... baby steps...

So here's my sticking point... I'm not talking to girls at this club.. I feel like I'm too old because I'm in my 30's but I really, really, really want to put my dick into these 20-somethings. My god....this girl in orange shorts... I had a happy time by myself in the shower fantasizing about her.

Here's my problem. I feel like everyone can read my creepy thoughts and like they know what's on my mind and that they will see right through me and I'll get a reputation as some creepy old loner if I show up alone and start talking to random 20-somethings... What's working in my favor is that I know, for sure, that I am better dressed than 95% of the male patrons at the club... however, I'm starting to get lines and wrinkles above my brow on my forehead, the skin beneath my chin is starting to sag, and my hair is thinning... Aside from that, I'm not terrible looking though. I could probably stand to lose a few pounds but I'm not fat, per se... I'm not sexy but I'm not ugly, and I don't feel "youthful" anymore. I just have this feeling like I'm going to be "found out" if I start talking to younger girls and I'm going to be labeled as a creep..

Anyone ever experience this? You go to a club and you have nothing but sex on the brain and you feel like you need to act cool and pretend it's not on your brain and you feel like your cover will be blown if you start talking to girls? I've come a long way in the past 6 weeks but I've recognized a new sticking point and I need to break through it.

I need to get to openers now... For some reason I don't want to use the same opener twice. I feel like people will know that I am using canned material and they will point this out, or call me out on it. Also, the only thing I know about openers comes from Mystery, and pretty much all of the rest of his material doesn't really work unless you're willing to stick to his entire system. Otherwise, using bits and pieces doesn't work at all.

Thanks for your help. Thanks Eddie Fews, for posting in nearly every thread on this site without being a negative douchebag. Even when I called out pickup coaches and said they were all con artists, he didn't take it personally. I'm still not about to buy coaching, but I will put in a plug for the guy: His last (not current) book is free if you have Kindle Unlimited on Amazon. You should check it out.

You're just the creepy older guy who sits around and doesn't say anything instead? lol

Dude what the fuck are you doing here? Get the fuck out of my thread. I doubt I'm the first person on here with this problem.

A week ago I couldn't even walk into a club because of social anxiety. And you come into my thread to humiliate me? I'm just like every other fucking guy in the bar, who is shy, and watches the band... which is why there is a band, because everyone is shy.

Now... I have listened to what you have said, and what the fuck is the point of this forum, besides making creepy guys into sociable guys?

I don't have a problem having sex with women who I believe are in my league, even if they are in their 20's, already, it's not hard at all. What I have problem with is fucking girls in their 20's who are extremely attractive. For some reason I'm psyched out of it.

How the fuck are you in business for anything at all, let alone counseling?

Where the fuck did you come up with your name? The Majikal Method? The M______ Method? Sound familiar, anyone?

You get zero points for originality dickbag.

I love you too.

Did your momma drop you, or did she just ignore you?

Nah, just playing... I get what you're saying... Doing nothing = being creepy, which is worse than at least talking to people and saying dumb shit, even if it is all dumb shit.

1 point for Majikal.

I love you too. Thanks for pushing me to reach higher. If I'm going get an assist doing a pullup, I guess I'd rather have some idiot yelling at me than someone touching my ass.

Appreciate it bro.

My problem is that I'm full of anger instead of funny jokes and good stories, I guess. Sometimes I walk into a room and I can't help but hate everyone in it. I get really mad instead of feeling social.

I had this same problem at a lot of places, though, and sometimes just going back repeatedly makes it easier and eventually I get into a social mood. Once that happens, I'm actually funny as shit.

Woah man... alright.

Take it easy.

This is why you suck with girls. This is why you sit there by yourself and wonder why noone wants to talk to you.

YOU CAN'T EVEN BE APPROACHED ON AN INTERNET FORUM! HOW FUCKING APPROACHABLE CAN YOU BE IN REAL LIFE?!

If you can't handle a little shit on a forum... you are going to freak the fuck out when some girl or a dude in real life actually gives you real shit. You're going to wind up in JAIL with an attitude like that.

CHILL. THE FUCK. OUT.

Good luck to you. Sorry for trying to point something out to maybe change your perspective.

...And calling me a douche bag REALLY drives your point home. This is why I don't like helping people on here anymore.

hey man... i just edited my post before i saw your reply. read the part at the bottom where i actually start to own up to my anger issues and admit that it pays to let that shit go and be social. but yeah. i get it. we're on the same page. i love you too. don't ever change on me. i'm trying to live out my emotions. i'm just glad you're not a bitch because, yeah, even the ones i do get with can't stand to be around me. we're gonna work on this and i'm going to change. we're all in the same boat. that basically is my problem. i am an angry person. i don't care if you want to continue to give me shit. it's going to help me grow.

LOL

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Lol majik went into victim mode.

Appreciate the shout out.

To your point: Reprogram the subconscious. The power to change and become who it is you want to be lies within what you feed your subconscious on a daily basis. Great actors get into character by convincing themselves that they are that character. They can go from introverted to charismatic and extroverted by simply convincing themselves that they are that which they've been called to become. Its a process that can take anywhere from 3 months to a year of consistency, but its all worth it.

You have all the power to be who you want to be.

You can continue working your way up the ladder by going out more and more consistently, but while doing so you can also mix in some of whats above. I always say; your thoughts become your words, your words become your actions, your actions become your habits, your habits become your character, and your character becomes your destiny. Thought creates the emotion, and emotion provides the fuel for taking action.

People can do without coaches, coaches are there for that extra push and motivation, just as a personal trainer is to motivate one to exercise. It gives you some incentive, you're responsible to someone, but just like working out, you can get in great shape without one. And you can get into great social and emotional shape without a coach if you have the drive.

Keep it up.

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I believe your sticking points stems from the roots.

Meaning you need to back track and correct things from your past that still haunt you.

Picking up girls at a club is as simple as saying, i will go out saturday(or day of your choice) and pick up girls.

Which means YOU GO IN AND BEAST... correctly. You work on your game. Hopefully you have good rolemodels you can learn game from.

Thats all.

If you cannot go to a club or a venue without being focused and being a social winner then you i'd suggest asking these questions

Am i healthy? Physically and mentally
Am i positive? Living a positive life, spreading positivity
Am i educated? In game, in a career in passions and in life
Am i financially stable enough? (not alot of money is required but being super broke is never the best case scenario, and this isnt even about women, is this how you treat yourself?)

You have the power to have the life YOU want.

If the answer is yes then there should be no insecurities

FOCUS

p.s You dont have to be perfect, just do your best to get your shit sorted

You shouldn't be having "loser mentality"

Too many winners out there for you not to have a positive influence and impact in your life

You are your biggest enemy,

tame your mind
tame your life

Win at the game.

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Couple of questions:

About Eddie's "getting into character":

Do any of you pick a particular character you model yourself after or do you invent your own?

About dtrak's BEASTing:

How many girls should you make a point of approaching? Does it matter if you approach one girl, after another, after another, after another, all night long, or is there a limit?

If you keep getting blown off, does this make the other girls think less of you, or make them think they are your last choice because you are desperate?

About Majikal's comment about conflict:

What types of shit will guys give you and what's the way to deal with this. AMOGing doesn't worry me so much as being threatened. When is it a good idea to stand your ground and when is it a good idea to walk away?

i didn't read much of this, but the band is there to entertain. they aren't there as social lubricant per se. They're there to have their music be hopefully appreciated, even if it is an 80s hair metal cover band banging out classix from Dokken, Tesla and Def Leppard

good questions

How many girls should you make a point of approaching? Does it matter if you approach one girl, after another, after another, after another, all night long, or is there a limit?

A player simply goes out, talks to whoever he likes and moves on when the interest isnt recipricated after a fair attempt at seduction. Often times the player knows what situations favor him, and the player strides to better himself and learns from his mistakes.

The player comes equiped with an arrange of dating theory which he knitpicks and makes work on his favor. So is there a limit? So long as you're still learning, there is no limit. If you're not enjoying the process of learning, and are not commited to improving, you should stop, go back home and think about it. Come back and beast correctly.

And no this isn't for the weak minded. But in the end the player always wins. A player becomes extremely confident after talking to alot of women, he then realizes the true game is played OUTSIDE of pick up. The true game lies in the positive thoughts you cultivate daily, your health, and your wonderful outlook of life. When a player goes out feeling abudant and confident, a player always wins. The results come quicker than a virgin(punchline). But dont get it twisted, you still need to know how to open/attract/vibe/close and shit. Basics. But that is technique. To go beyond technique you need soul.

But you will never get results if you dont approach, often. As often as it takes to get the result. No more, no less.

Question 2
If you keep getting blown off, does this make the other girls think less of you, or make them think they are your last choice because you are desperate?

Yes and No.

It depends where you are.

Be discreet if is a low vibe area.

If theres high traffic who cares they probably wont even notice. If they do play it off. Doesn't matter in a highly charged environment.

You have to play your cards right. Is simpler than it sounds. Use common sense with this one.

A player plays it cool, but a player never makes excuses not to approach. A player tries to make the best decisions. It isnt called the "game" for no reason.

Not every pick up needs to be flashy lol, you can be indirect sometimes.

I'm useually very aware of my environment and i play accordingly.

Be smooth. Take risks. Learn.

Alot of times when i get blown out it doesnt look like i got blown out. I play it off so well for that very reason. Be smart about it.

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