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 Post subject: Sing to success
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:52 am 
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Now as you can see its my first post and I would like to start by saying I am not naieve enough to assume this routine/technique is exclusive to myself or that it has not been discussed on this forum but I thought it worthy of posting due to the great success rate I have achieved with it. The best bit is, its so simple.

Sing....sing on the bus, sing on the train, sing in the street. I first stumbled upon this "technique" by accident. Travelling on the train just a few stops I thought I was alone in the carriage and was singing an oasis song purely because it was a very late very quiet train, unbeknowst to me a very attractive indie.alt girl had sat down in the two seats behind me, as I stood up to leave the train I saw her and her stiffled laughter (clearly at my terrible but enthusiastic singing). She immediately saw my embarassment and said "dont quit your day job hun".

From that moment I realised the simple act of enthusiastic singing, even without the knowledge of a prescence of a woman could potentially lead to a multitude of esculations and the best bit being I would barely consider this method an "approach". Even when used intentionally

Since then If I happen upon an attractive girl out of earshot I will sing a song I know and enjoy with equal enthusiasm until she nears and I am audible. Worst case scenario....the girl thinks your drunk or a bit weird (unlikely depending on time of day and location).

More often than not I have found my behaviour at least ellicits a smile from even the most stone faced young lady.

As a heavily tattooed Englishman I have found the stereotype I most closely fit into is indie alternative and as a result have found great success singing songs that one would expect someone of that nature to sing. Just last week I sung wonderwall by Oasis whilst walking to a club which recieved a look somewhere between a smile and a curious frown from a gorgeous tanned brunette. I simply stopped mid verse and asked if she was okay (with a hint of sarcasm as if I was a little offended by her reaction). She said "why is it your singing alone in the street". My response on this occasion was that its an amazing song and I dont hear it enough anymore so I am forced to sing it and that in fact the song is such a classic I shouldnt have to justify it to strangers. She replied "im not forcing you too sing it but your forcing me to listen. My response was that she clearly couldnt be that offended or she wouldnt still be talking to me. This conversation closed with me getting digits after a lengthy discussion about music and which club she was going to that night.

Before this gets too long I will share with you my most enjoyable and suprisingly successful use of this technique. As aformention I paint a very clear picture of the indie alternative englishman, therefore singing songs by Lady Gaga, One direction and the like cause exactly the reactions from women one would expect, disbelief, curiosity and maybe even a little of embarassment.

The main reason I love this technique is because it takes the cold out of the approach, its illicits a physical response ( be it a smile a frown or anything in between) and an emotional response....all before I have even initiated a conversation. Those physical and emotional responses give you ample oppertunity to comment upon them, meaning the initial verbal contact is easy, they noticed YOU, YOU are acknowledging them. YOU are in control and they are reacting to YOUR behaviour. For all intents and purposes you were enjoying singing and it was them who engaged you physically and emotionally causing YOU to stop. Its fun, non intrusive and the conversational topics that can follow are virtually limitless...music obviously, I have even initiated quite deep and meaningful conversations about confidence and human behavior within minutes doing this.

Closing is simple, reenforce the reasons why you and her stopped to chat, emphasize the human behavior, profess your love for spontaneous behavior and offer her a genuine oppertunity to spend time with you because you think the time you spend together will be fun. Ive also found girls I have continued to meet after this technique will try particularly hard to be "spontaneous"...make of that what you will :P

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 Post subject: Re: Sing to success
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:26 am 
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I tend to admire these people that just sing. When I went to NY I would see daily this behaviour, tends to be really happy black dudes.

To be devil's advocate, my question to you, how many time has this singing thing landed you a date/getting laid? - That's the big question here.

We all know phone numbers is not the goal here so I just wanted to ask the big question that everybody reading this is thinking...

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 Post subject: Re: Sing to success
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:14 am 
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Its a good question one I should have answered in my intial post in fairness.

I will openly admit this is not a quick lay tactic, but its not long game. It has only resulted in one sexual encounters on the same day with an extended gap inbetween. Song in the morning....meet up at night follwed by a lay. I find a second date is usually enough to seal the deal and my text game is decent enough to make sure that second date happens sooner rather than later.


Personally it ticks my boxes because I cant stand the cold approach, I know thats probably not what PUA want to hear but despite having a "method" I like the process to feel organic. Id say for numbers the success rate is outragously high and having such a positive quirky first impression even the laziest follow up date game is likely going to see some sexy time. The sex from these follow up dates is extremely likely from my experience. Best success so far is 6 dates and 4 lays in a fortnight using this method for intiation. One flake after the follow up date and one wanted more dates.

Positives of the method in a nutshell are

.EASY approach
.total control - acceptance is obviously great - rejection can be passed off as her problem/insecurity.
.easy conversation paths to avoid the dreaded icey silence.
.ample oppertunity for humour.
.I find the tendancy to flake on a second date is quite low in general

Negatives of the method are:

.Difficult same day lay
.Need to be audible <---- this one seems silly but I have walked past many a girl using this method only to have an ambulance or lawnmower totally fcuk it up, its obviously still possible to then try another technique but momentum is important for me.
.Also there is the obvious allbeit not long lasting feeling that your a clown but if you can genuinely enjoy it then its a fun way to get talking to girls
Lastly and probably the real flaw with this method is....your also quite dependant on your follow up game being strong enough to get a lay, and really everybody needs to be their own judge here. The ice is broken the stage is set....its down to the dude to seal.

The absolute worst case scenario for me thus far was singing "heart shaped box" and the girl started to actually sing with me.... then my voice just cracked and I let out the most ridiculous pre pubescent squeek, as it had never happened I totally failed to recover and was just left facing a girl who looked as shocked as I was that I could even produce such a sound...awful. No doubt some more efficent PUA's among you could recover and turn that into a little self depreciating banter but alas....I failed entirely and scurried away.


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 Post subject: Re: Sing to success
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:25 am 
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You would make such an annoying wing haha But fair play. Not sure I have the balls to try. But each to their own.

To me, sounds like you should give busking a go instead. Most people are happy with musical buskers. Where you can display your Facebook name (and let girls message you) and earn money in the process. People will also be less judgmental.

Could be a better conversion process...up to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Sing to success
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:53 am 
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To be honest its become less like a technique and I quite often just do it anyway now. Its a bit like the first time you go out on your own to a bar or club or something, daunting at first but after the initial awkwardness it just becomes "normal".

Im a terrible wingman, your assessment is correct. In ernest Im a terrible PUA, if I get talking to a girl in a club I pretty much just scramble out any old shit and seem to do alright. I had a conversation just last night with a Bisexual girl inside a gay club about how everybody should have badges so we know who to try to seduce. She replied with a witty line about how eerily similar that sounds to a jewish ghetto in nazi germany and we progressed from there into how Im not racist but I did vote conservative because im very conservative (bullshit) and how she voted green party (bisexual blonde with a lip ring...no shit). Led to much banter about how repressed I was (bullshit) and how liberal she was haha. From there it was easy to challenge her to de-repress me thankfully she agreed. Successful night.
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 Post subject: Re: Sing to success
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Coolio

Gay districts are the best place to game. I met my ex gf in there.

You just have to deal with the odd ass pinch from the fella's

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 Post subject: Re: Sing to success
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I actually did this routine before reading this post, but my results were no results.

Last month, i went to this pop-punk concert. i was all the way in the front where i could see the band members play without getting blocked. when the concert ended, i waited for a train to take me back to penn station. to pass the time, i sang a few of the band's songs that they played during the show; but despite me being a good singer (i took a semester of singing class), i wasn't approached by anybody, and there were 2 hot girls within earshot from where i was standing. i wonder what went wrong...

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 Post subject: Re: Sing to success
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:38 pm 
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I actually did this routine before reading this post, but my results were no results.

Last month, i went to this pop-punk concert. i was all the way in the front where i could see the band members play without getting blocked. when the concert ended, i waited for a train to take me back to penn station. to pass the time, i sang a few of the band's songs that they played during the show; but despite me being a good singer (i took a semester of singing class), i wasn't approached by anybody, and there were 2 hot girls within earshot from where i was standing. i wonder what went wrong...
Testosterone showmanship. Your voice quality and sexual attractiveness will shoot up when your testosterone goes up to at least normal levels. The quality of your singing has very little to do with nailing pussy but more so with your testosterone showmanship.

Phil Collins does not get laid as much with hot girls as Gene Simmons and yet Phil certainly sings better than Gene.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:23 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Sing to success
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:54 pm 
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Testosterone showmanship. Your voice quality and sexual attractiveness will shoot up when your testosterone goes up to at least normal levels.
So basically... stop masturbating

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 Post subject: Re: Sing to success
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:52 pm 
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So basically... stop masturbating
No. For men, there is absolutely NO corelation between masturbation and testosterone levels. Zitzmann (2001) Testosterone Levels in Healthy Men and the Relation to Behavioural and Physical Characteristics: Facts and Constructs. That scientific jounal has 189 citations which basically means, it is well-accepted in the scientific community.

Interestingly, in this same jounal, it says that good musicality in men is corelated with low testosterone. I have a gut feeling that the OP is not a good singer but his testosterone level is high enough which gets him laid when he sings.

Try exercise Jose. Stay away from endurance training though like jogging or marathons. Go for strength training and high intensity interval training if you have no serious medical condition (heart ailments, enlarged scrotum, lose bowel movement and so on).

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