DirectMike, for a guy who hates PUA stuff I have to wonder why you're on a PUA forum.

You seem to have this twisted idea that all of us here are indirect, routine, DHV spewing monkies. Maybe you should actually read the advice that some of the more respected posters here have gave.

Anyways, I'm tired of you coming onto our forum and bashing everyone. I hope your social skills with women are better than your social skills you have shown here.

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Yeah accuses me of manipulation for inviting girls out for a drink as opposed to an invite and telling her I am going to be fucking her in the ass

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Thanks for your post Dragula! - I totally agree with that point of view.

In my own experiences, most of the times that I were kissing, it just happened in the middle of a short and easy type of conversation. But I didn't say anything like 'let's kiss now'. I just started to warm it up a bit by touching and flirting. To be honest, I don't even think about it when I am doing that, it goes automatically. I guess that is just part of evolution too. But to take it to the next level you probably can use some techniques and more own experience. As long you can use it while you're going with the flow (I don't want to act like a robot with girls..), I think that it will improve my overall dating skills for sure.

It seems like you are already on that way right now. Good job.

Mindbending shit. Good stuff. Any guy that reads the above pgf needs to put this into his knowledge base.

I'm thinking of a time when I first learned how to 'game' properly and I was walking with confidence and a girl started eyeing me up and smiling her ass off. MOST OF THIS PICKUP SHIT IS NONVERBAL, MOTHERFUCKERS.