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Fuck game. Learn to be straightforward and honest. If you want to waste your money on expensive products that do fuck all, be my guest. Bear in mind I am paying off debts as a result of these assholes bleeding my money to teach game. However this isn't PUAHate, so lets skip that.
"It is other people's fault that I cannot manage my money well and therefore have debt. I am not responsible for my own decisions"
I don't put this out as an attack for anybody, but if you are going to learn game you are likely going to learn from people who have been there and done that. Do some of these things that everyone is saying, try them see how they work. Also find a mentor, but watch out for negative talk like that.
Half the struggle is going to be mental, but take the steps both mentally and physically and you will be on your way.
It serves us no good to go back and forth about who is gay and mel gibson gay on this forum, let's help this guy out.
I acknowledge I am responsible for my own funds, but that is where my agreement with you ends. If PUA or whatever you want to call it was truly altruistic, its products would be a hell of a lot cheaper for a start. The position I am endorsing, and practice, is that women deserve to be told the truth about your intentions, and it has proven to be the most effective way of obtaining them. The cost of the material which has guided me in this direction has cost me less than £50, which is more that can be said of an individual e-book which often can cost that much.
Also, there is nothing wrong with negativity if what you're attacking is a negative subculture for reasons stated above. PUA is not the only self-help subculture which has caused massive financial losses for its followers. Expressing legitimate anger or disagreement is necessary for the preservation of personal sanity. Unjustified/baseless positive thinking leads to apathy, which is dangerous. For the record, overt negativity is just as delusional as being overtly positive and equally dangerous. If you must find a mentor, find one that lives in the real world, which frankly is a minority in the world of self help given that the entire subculture is based on pseudoscience and New Age thinking. The difference is that I live in the real world in which I encounter both negative and positive - when I am pissed off with someone, I tell them they're pissing me off. Conversely when I think a girl is sexy and I would like to go to bed with her, I tell her that.
Trying to combine direct with PUA teachings is a logical fallacy as I stated elsewhere, and have repeated over and over because its true. There is no two ways to be direct, you only feel the way that you do and the best you can do is report the way that you are feeling. I believe PUA is a hindrance to men getting the women they want - for those who believe it is the best way to get women, how did men get women prior to the internet? Given I have spoken to senior citizens about how they hooked up with their partner, a large majority often recalled being direct.
My writings were an attempt to help this guy out, and personally (call it self righteous if you wish) I believe this is the most effective way of getting the women that you want. I don't like 'Dragula' on the basis that he is an arrogant prick, and I despise PUA on the basis that it lies to women to manipulate them into pulling down their pants rather than just being honest, and for the most part, its techniques are ineffective. In order to grasp what direct was, I had it explained in a single book - my investment in learning to be direct comes to about £50 - the cost of attempting to learn PUA without any significant results comes to about £2000. Go figure. Given we have one member here say he's been learning about PUA for 5 years and hasn't got so much as a kiss from a girl, it displays that there is an issue. I got further faster with women when I adopted a direct approach and told them exactly what my intentions were, and learned how to dirty talk, which is far more effective than telling her she's cute.
PUA focuses on the approach. After that, what the fuck are you going to do then? The PUA stuff doesn't cover that. Being honest and direct may be a good means of being able to seduce women, but it also serves as a means to lead your life. Being able to tell your future wife when she's pissing you off is just as important as having the ability to look into her eyes and tell you that you love her. If you try not to focus on the negative with your partner, you are going to get trodden on and taken advantage of. However please carry on with your stupid PUA crap, it means more women for the men.
CHAT
