So, I met this girl from online game, and we hung out. I bounced her to different locations, she's the type that has a lot of walls up and doesn't let people I'm and was like, "I'm not kissing you". Etc.
I ran game, was direct and showed great intentions, and in short built more comfort and we made out and had foreplay going on. I drove her home, told her to text me let me know if she's ok, as a compliance test. She did. While there I told her I wanted to see her again, it was mutual and planted the idea of a day 3, she was a bit stand off-ish, but we didn't schedule it.

I text her the next day, no reply, the next day (Sat. She photographed a wedding that day) she texts me and we text the entire day, I build comfort, pass her test, tease her, eventually it's 3 AM. I tell her let's explore the city, she agrees. I didn't text back it was too late. I text her and say, "Yes, we'll have a blast. How's Wed?" At 5 pm. She hasn't replied back yet at the most IMPORTANT text. Been a day since she I texted her.

This is a common issue we all have and I'd like to know how to handle this once and for all.

If only you'd CALLED you wouldn't be sitting there waiting for an answer... Or scratching your head trying to figure out why you didn't get one...

Call. Just call.

This isn't difficult stuff.

I asked some pua friends and they said to text her. So, after the first date it's always better to call her?

Also, now, when should I call her
It's been a day since I texted her?

They sound very experienced.

After the date: No... Unless you want to. When you're asking for a date: Yes.

If you'd called - you wouldn't have had to make this post. You'd have your answer.

Call whenever you feel like it. I'd likely do it tonight.

Really great answer! Is the sooner the better in positions like this?
Also, as a small guide what should I say (I assume the convo should be like 10 mins). Thanks for being so patient with me.

P.S. I just called, it's 11:50 PM here. It went to voice mail. I said "Hey, it's The Natural what's up? Shoot me a quick text. Talk to you soon". Kinda rushed it a bit. I'm going to bed soon hence me saying shoot me a text. How'd I do?

I have a framework on how to talk to her, tease her a bit, joke around, fluff talk, go for the date, done. Sound good?

Going forward and this is only my advice, take it or leave it: Do not have lengthy text convos with girls you haven't had sex with yet. Talk to her in person. Use text or calling for scheduling meetups.

2nd what @oceans said! I used to text girls I was into and it only led to failure. Lately my text are always short. As of now I'm seeing a girl and I've been calling her to setup times. If I get a voicemail I always leave a message. " Hey it's (name) hope your off to a great start. Whenever you get an opportunity give me a call back, talk to you soon bye? With this I always have been getting a returned phone call and that's when I chat for a little to catch up before sending an invite or setting up a date. Game but don't play games.

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Ocean and twoon, thanks for your reply guys!

So, she just replied to me via text "Hey, sorry I missed your call". She replied. I agree, after meeting up and all that, it's a bad move to have lengthy text convo's. So, even tho it's late here and I need to be up early, do I just call her tomorrow or call back now

Would calling back lower my value/power. Maybe "Np, going to bed. I'll call you tomorrow at 8". Maybe that may come across stronger then it being needy and calling her again

I texted back with "Np, I got like 5 mins. Free to chat?" I think that's a good move? That way it doesn't look needy like I'm calling her a lot and I'm setting the bar. And based on her response I can still lead the Convo. Good idea? I think just calling again would not be as safe.

She responded with "Ok"

I call her, I tease her and am like "so what Disney movie are you watching?" (Inside joke) I tease her about that, ask how she's doing, and how her week went, I tell her about how my life is an interesting party I went to and an opinion question i got from there about art. She's like "Your mean!" , I say, ok, let me be like every other guy and just praise you in complements. She's like, no, I already do that myself. I feel like every nice thing you say,you have to say something bad In return (trying to figure me out. IOI?) Just be a human. I joked and said, I am human. I always have a comeback, basically.


I joke and say (later in the convo) im sending im kidding I love you, im sending you hugs and kisses om the cheek! She responded warmly. Sort of in a cute voice, and we're being playful, then I'm like, Ya, what are you gonna' do about it? And we battle a bit.

She says I like Disney movies and she can't think of the one I'd like, I said just look at the posters on your wall, I made myself laugh (self-entertaining) actually and she laughed too. Big high the convo, then I go for the kill.


Playfully and on like now let's set up our adventure! (Then I used a lot of fancy words like Russell Brand sort of, went on a rant) Which involves me dressed in a tuxedo, you dressed in a black dress and a unicorn (inside joke) and it all has a playful vibe. So I'm like, I'm thinking Tues 8pm, and btw, what song is in the background? We talk music for a second. Then she says, I'll get back to you, I tell her I'm booked Weds and have Tues and Thurs free and she repeats that and says she'll text me and get back to me, her voice tonality was positive not hesitant like "how can I get rid of this guy" which can happen as we all know. Then as a compliance test I say, text me the classical music you're playing. And as soon as we hang up she texts me the song and etc. I'd say, that's an IOI. I thought it went well. I tend to beat myself up a lot and think my PU is not good enough but, it's 1 AM here and I don't expect her to know her schedule in the middle of her working on editing a film. So, I'm waiting for her text. I think I die good bro's.

Next time call her back the next day. Perhaps in the afternoon. I generally don't take calls from girls past 11pm especially if they aren't my everything. You should be busy sleeping like a king past midnight or working on something personal, not talking to some girl your trying to schedule a date with.

You're getting overly technical. Still thinking in terms of IoI's in a day 3 setting? Dude if she weren't interested there wouldn't have been a day 1, let alone day 3.

You need to be more chill about it. More confident in yourself rather. Sure you gotta be an entertaining guy, tease her around and whatnot but do it because it's who you are, not to elicit some sort of response.
If you do what you do in attempts of getting a reaction, you're automatically placing her value above yours. You're trying to please. You can disguise that and hope her instincts don't see through it but you'd be doing everyone a favor by just not doing it in the first place.
So again, you don't have to go out of your way to "impress". Be who you are, constantly work on improving the quality of "you" and don't make a habit out of spewing out things like "Oh ok let me be like every other guy". If you really are different, trust me, she's capable of recognizing that (and most likely did already) without you having to highlight it verbally.

I wanted to say more but I gotta finish this post later. Might edit it if I don't forget.

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