@Dragula,

I take back what I said about cold approaches. It actually DOES work. That one date you see on my stats is from a girl at a gas station. We were talking about video games, and I approached her out of interest.

I think I know what my problem is. 4 months of studying PUA trying to finish up all my courses, and I only did game at my job (Wal-Mart Super Center), and then picked up a girl at a gas station from my house. That's pretty much 80% studying, and 20% application.

I need to up my application.

What's with the tone?

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What?

What's.with.the.tone?

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You should be doing 14 approaches a night, not 14 approaches over 5 months.

Plenty of time to do pick up, I used to go out and approach tons when I was successfully completing a Master's course, and I only went out on weekends.

If you don't put out the effort to get better, then you may as well come off the forum now. You NEED to practice in order to get better with women, and 14 approaches in 5 months won't cut it.

Nobody is saying that you should try to lay every woman you approach - but approaching people,getting accustomed to the social dynamics of interaction, these are necessary in order to successfully navigate interactions when you DO meet the women you're interested in.

So yeah basically I'd say, do the newbie challenge, THEN come back and tell us your results.

You need to put yourself in a position where you are meeting MORE girls that you are attracted to. 14 girls is not enough to even mention.

I didn't give you a tone.

Three questions if you please.

What places did you go to when doing your cold approaches on the weekends?

How do I get over public embarrassment when asking for phone numbers? Its hard for me to do this, because it puts me in the spotlight.

Did you just randomly talk to women for 10 minutes, and then get a number?

Thank you.

1. You get over it by forcing yourself to do it over and over again. I used to be scared to kiss girls when I was a kid, but I did it quite a lot and now I'm fine.

2. Tell them to take your number and call you

3. You just open, tell them something like "Hi, I thought you looked cute and I'd kick myself if I didn't quickly come and say hi before I go home" then the conversation will naturally start. I really don't see a problem with going indirect for your first approaches though - opinion openers etc. Direct is more efficient, but that doesn't always mean it's more effective. It depends on the guy, and people forget that. For the typical guy, indirect will usually be better at first, because direct just isn't congruent with who they are and it comes across really forced. But if you're feeling it, go direct. If you're comfortable with both, direct is your best default setting.

You've done approaches, you should already know this stuff. Stop procrastinating and triple your number by Friday give yourself motivation. No more masturbating until you reach 40 approaches.

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Sounds like a plan. However, I don't agree with giving them my number, because my PUA studies have shown that telling the girl you want her number is more effective. If you give your number, she's not going to call.

So my question is, let's say I'm at the mall for example, and I see a girl sitting down at a table smiling at me. I go over and do a 10 minute conversation. Now, how do I get over public embarrassment when telling her I want her number? This puts me in the "spotlight", and it feels very uncomfortable when other people are seeing this going on. I've noticed that when I did approaches in public, nobody really cared.

EDIT: Never mind, you answered the question within a different number. I can understand doing it again and again helps, but my god, it still seems hard for me to get over that spotlight feeling.

PUA studies will also tell you that routines are better than natural game, but then it'll tell you that natural game is better than routines. It'll tell you that direct is better than indirect, then it'll tell you that indirect is better than direct. If PUA studies prove all of it wrong, is it not better to just do NOTHING?

If you want to be posting a thread in a couple of days saying "Got this girls number, how long do I wait before calling?" Then be my guest. I'm just trying to eliminate flakes, but there's nothing wrong with you asking for her number either. Both work effectively, just don't believe everything you find out with "studies" to be true. PUA studies will also tell you to wear goggles on your fucking head and paint your nails black. One thing you need to realise, is that 99% of it is completely wrong.

But yea, if you want to be the one to take their number... end the interaction with "Well I should probably get going now. What's your number? I'll give you a call later" (pull your phone out while saying it, as if you expect the number because you're a catch and a girl would be an idiot to not give the number. I know how cocky that is, but just do it please.)

I'd love to know what material you've studied though, lol

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I did 4 months studying The Tao of Badass.

I have a strong feeling what you and Dragula is telling me is going to work. I just now have to put it in application, and do it.

BTW, what places did you go to when doing game?

There's another problem. You're viewing it as this big mission. Anywhere that you can talk to people, is a place that you can game. It's just normal life, yet a little more social. Stop viewing it like that.

A good place is a mall, but you can literally game a girl anywhere from a library to a death metal concert lol. Asking for a place, is like asking for a place to walk

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Forget about getting laid right now

You need to be exposed to this horrible spot light feeling, otherwise known as anxiety. We all have this feeling, so you're not unique to it

You need to liberate this feeling by doing it and failing till you're desensitised to it. You're putting too much pressure on yourself.

Go indirect, direct, whatever you prefer. Give her your phone number or ask for hers. Whatever, just get used to "closing". THEN worry about making it solid when you have the social freedom and handled the spotlight feeling

Question, these approaches you do at work, what did you talk about to get their phone number? Post up some sort of transcript

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