Hi guys, I need an expert advice. I have a female friend that I have been trying to seduce for over a year. I even bought a lot of programs about dating and seduction but unfortunately it doesn't work on her. She only see's me as a friend even though I followed all the steps on any program. To make the long story short, my ego took over and I decided to unfriend and unfollow her on all of my social media. She also unfollowed me too after a week. The reason I did that is to completely forget about her and move on to the next girl. However, I realize that I ruined our friendship that used to be really great and now I'm kinda regretting it. Should I initiate contact and apologize to her? cuz I know she's hurt, or just completely forget about her and never contact her again. Thanks in advance.

If you're not getting what you want from her, why settle for friendship? It's obvious that you won't be happy with that solution. Instead of worrying about protecting how she feels, put yourself first.

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Stop falling for the "win any girl" or "get out of the friendzone in 2 days" marketing crap. It's a waste of money and they take advantage of desperate pains. They are a great pieces of sales psychology for people to part ways with their cash.

Stop wasting another second, don't waste another penny and accept that you can not seduce every girl. Move on from this girl. She isn't interested no matter what you do. Learn from this. Next time, make an overt move on her that will solidify the dynamic, if she likes you she will let you. If doesn't, you move on escape the friendzone.

I recommend you grab your love life by the balls and work on to become good with women. You will probably leave the forum through since you just want that magic line that will make everything alright which doesn't exist.

You're are not friends. If she was ugly you wouldn't be her friend. There is a conflict agendas.

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Thanks for your advice guys and it's true what you guys said. She's a good friend of mine. She even pretends to be my gf everytime I want to break up with someone. We normally hangout but like I said, she always rejects my sexual advances but she still talks to me after. I'm not really worried about of attracting her cuz I know that she's not attracted to me. I'm more concerned of our good friendship that we had. I'm sure she's hurt right now and wondering what she did wrong. Cuz I ended our friendship with an passive aggressive move. My instint keeps telling me to call and apologize to her. But if you guys thinks that if it will be better just to let her go, I'll will let her go and learn from this experience

If you want to apologize to her, with no expectations, do it. If you're hoping it will make her be friends again, dont. Only do it if they are for YOUR principles and not to get something from her. If she's a true friend keep her. Otherwise cut it off. If you cant hang out with a chick because she doesnt like you back, meet girls and work on accepting some girls arent gonna want you. If they offer other things, doesnt mean you shouldnt be their friends. Running from a girl because she doesnt like you is cowardly and it just keeps you in the mindset where you cant accept a girl doesnt like you, yet still be solid enough to move on and hang with her. If she genuinely offers other things. Also, meet other girls. If she's a friend, keep the friend. If you just wanted her and she isnt cool, then apologize if you want and move on. Meet other women regardless.

You want to be her friend because you want the validation from a hot girl and have that little optimism that one day she might say "I want to be with you"

The only reason you should cut her loose is if her being with other guys makes you angry which means you're not true friends.

If you're her true friend. Apologise for reacting and be her friend. Same as you Do with a male a friend.

Perhaps I'm wrong but I really think you have deluded yourself into thinking you're just friends.

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Thanks for that awesome reply. I think I got a little upset at the time cuz I already exhausted all my resources just to attract her but nothing works. It works on other girls except for her. And that what made me do it. I know realize it's coward thing what I did, so I'll apologize to her for hurting her feelings cuz she looks up to me as a great guy and really enjoys my company. Now there's an unresolved puzzle in her head why I did that cuz she thought that were cool just friends. She knows I'm a player and she knows every girl I hook up with. That's probably why she's not attracted to me cuz she knows me too well. And yes, one of the reason that motivated me to do this passive aggressive decission is that it bothers me everytime she hangsout with other guys. So I just made a conscious decision to unfriend and unfollow her so I can no longer see her pics. I'm still considering apologizing at the right time

Question... How the hell do you guys fall so much in love with a girl who has never been with you.. That you can't see her with other guys? This sounds like the creepiest thing anytime I hear it. I can understand it hurting if you see and ex who dumped you or an ex wife. I get that. But a crush? Having strong feelings like that for someone are weird to me when it's entirely one way. It's like you guys are falling in love with yourself cause the girl doesn't feel the same way and never did. I've had plenty female friends I was interested in and I don't feel ANYTHING when they get a bf or flirt with guys. I dunno... I just couldn't fall that hard for a girl when she is doing nothing.

You're right bud and I agree in everything you said... I'm not having a hard time hooking up with girls cuz I do it all the time. But for some reason, there's always this one girl. I think that's something I need to improve on and to be humble and accept the fact that not every girl in the world would go for it. I know that love is entirely made out of validation and id. You'll like a woman because she validates you in a certain way and you get addicted to it, even if she's not that good looking. This is a lesson for me that I need to control my own ego cuz that's my downfall when it comes to attracting women. A lot of girls I know thinks I'm a player and that I can get one night stands with. I guess I just got frustrated that I can get a girl with minimum effort, and I can't get this female friend that I really wanted to have a relationship with. I think I've fallen into the boyfriend trap that all my moves to her were very predictable and she figured me out right away. We all know that if a woman figures you out she has you and you can never have her. And this is very true.

I guess it seems chodey now that me and yourself have probably evolved from those dark times (well, for me anyway). I was guilty of this oneitus crap because I was somehow deluded into thinking that when a girl knew that I liked her it would mess it up. I've done some other creepy shit that I really don't care to talk about lol.

Very glad I discovered the self help world and I'm not longer bothered when my high school crush finds a new boyfriend on Facebook. I don't think I ever selected a girl and pursued into the panties. It's more about the numbers game and finding the girls that dig me at that time.

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Like the time you followed that girl home and tied her up in her parent's basement after she said she wouldn't go out with you?

Ooops...

You joke...But you're actually getting close...

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Thanks for your input guys, I guess I'm just venting out. I can't believe I allowed myself to be in a emotional quicksand, I'm the one who normally put women there. Anyway, screw apologizing and I'll continue being awesome by hooking up with more women. Cheers!!

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You were never her friend if you were buying programs to manipulate and seduce her. You were just using your place as friend to sneak behind the scenes and get more.

I'd say move on completely.

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Thanks for your input. You're right, I'm not really her true friend since I'm manipulating her just to get into her pants. However, she honestly thinks that we were good friends cuz she did a lot of stuff for me, and she helps me out all the time every time ask her to do something for me, and she never turns it down. I think that's the only reason why I want to apologize to her, but I can completely forget about her anytime. Anyway, I'll just break whatever friendship we had and completely forget about her. She's probably regretting that she ever met me by now lol. Anyway, there's more girls I met, at the bus stop, park, a girl walking her dog, at the food court, damn! it so easy cuz they're all over the place haha.

Oh and one more thing, before I did all that, we were supposed to hangout and she was really excited about it then I blew her off at the last minute. Then this happened after a week, oh crap I think I'm evil. That's probably the reason why I was guilty about it at first. But not anymore and I'm so glad I did this cuz I know I'm not gonna get nowhere with this girl. Oh well