To Dragula (Pebble), Eddie Fews, CHarders, and actually ANYONE ELSE on this forum who will answer, including J. Daniels, ChocolatePUA, Onoma, and anyone else I forgot to mention....

What are your credentials? How many girls have you slept with?

Can you go to a bar any night of the week and take a girl home? What is your usual game plan or routine for doing so?

CHarders, are you mostly just Tinder, or can you go out and get girls from the bars and clubs as well.

And can I ask.... what do you do for a living? (I already know that answer for Dragula/Pebble).

-Patrick

I'm sure your credentials are better than mine....

Also, I hate to make new threads, so I will contain everything in one.....

I was watching a video of Mystery on YouTube, and even he has approach anxiety. He treats every situation like brand new. It's weird. It's almost like his past success has no bearing on what he's doing in the present.

That guy is kind of weird, though.... I don't think I want to model myself after him, and the things he does are certainly not something you can actually do in real life.....

And on the topic of cool parties with tons of hot girls... where do places like this exist? I have been to the biggest clubs and bars in Orlando, FL and I will tell you that even the biggest clubs have tons of ugly and stupid girls in them....... this video is an example of those "cool parties with tons of hot girls" that I'm talking about....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRixQKeveMc

There's a video of Mystery in the field.... notice how he treats every interaction like it's brand new as if he is not the "great Mystery." It's as if he has had no past success at all and completely worries about impressing the girl that he's just met. He is so highly invested in their opinions of him, which goes against what the book Models says....

And here is a video from the series "Keys to the VIP," that was suggested to me at one point. Again, is this reality? I have never seen places like this in real life and I have been to the biggest bars and clubs in Orlando. Is my city just too small? Do I have to move to Hollywood? Do these places exist outside of the Playboy Mansion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHd9zc1SkW8

Uh, yeah, Mystery sucks with girls pretty badly. If you're wanting to see what good infields look like, I'd check out GoodLookingLoser.

Those Keys To The VIP dudes sitting on the couch giving tips, really suck at reading body language and paying attention to facial expressions and vocal tonality. Everything they suggest on "improving game" is just absolute shit.

They literally cannot tell the difference between the girls who are interested and the ones being nice. It's just like "Well he got a number!".

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I wouldn't say that Mystery sucks. The book said he has been with 122 girls at the time of writing. I watched some of his stuff on YouTube and he think SO FAST.... like, how does he come up with that stuff off the top of his head. I sit there and any time I'm with a girl one-on-one, it's like..... AWKWARD!!!!!.... then my mind starts thinking about bdsm.... or the best I can do is bum a cigarette, but I quit, so I don't know what to do now....

Tell them that I plan to buy a hotel in the next few years and that I'll be richer than Donald Trump in 15 years? Would that help?

One thing I noticed last time I went out is that not all of the guys who go out are there with the intention of meeting girls.... I mean... in the back of their head, they must be..... but a lot of them just sit there and watch TV and drink..... if I were better, I could steal their girls from under them if they have one.... BUT.... I'm still too scared to approach.... I was in the store yesterday and there was this Asian woman who was probably under 5 feet tall and could not have weighed more than 105 lbs...... I am scared of her... scared to approach....

I have been to prison and felt no fear. I have lived homeless and walked down streets at 3 AM that many people would be scared to drive down during the day time.

Seriously, what the fuck is my problem. (feel free to answer this in plain English if you know the answer).... This is getting old. I'm 28. I need to just rip it off like a Band-Aid. Quit being such a pussy and just fail a few times. I think I would learn fast.

I have no problem maintaining my "power" in the business world. I can talk with lenders about the best loan terms. I have no problem acting like an asshole to someone who rips me off or I feel like was about to or who in some way didn't provide me with the service they promised (like I recently did when I refused to pay an architect until they fixed something to exact specifications they promised when it didn't meet the requirements of the building department). If I could only maintain this power when I talk to women... or if they could see me in this powerful state.....

That is why I choose not to work from home. I work at the bar at Winghouse so all the hot girls can see/hear me in action as I'm kicking ass in the business world.

....taking bids from contractors, making sure they quote me down to the price of every nail....

btw.... best pickup line ever.... go up to a girl with a pair of sex dice in your hand..... ask her if she wants to play a game (she doesn't know it's sex dice in your hand at this point).... when she says "sure,".... roll the dice and say "okay.... we have to do it doggy style in the shower!"..... Lol....

Marketers never lie, right?
No.
No...just no.

You should start here sense you seem to have bad approach anxiety approach-anxiety-buster-missions-vt162874.html

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Are you SURE it wouldn't help to own a hotel or apartment complex, let alone many of them? You know this for a fact because you have owned one?

Donald Trump is ugly, right. Look at his wives. I really don't want to get into this again, though....

Here's a picture of one of Mystery's girlfriends....

https://www.datingskillsreview.com/imag ... friend.jpg

I believe that he's been with 122 girls. I believe that Sinn and Style have been with over 60 just like it says. Why choose to believe people are lying.

I know people personally that have been with over 100. One of them because his wife was bisexual and used to bring home her friends. The other this black guy who has a reputation of being really good, so girls recommend him to each other and go to him when they're drunk.

Funny enough, I do own 10% of a small hotel with my father owning the other 90%.

Right. If you want gold diggers then by all means, throw money around. I know people who are pretty damn rich and the ones who are good with women will downplay how much they have because they want to know that women like them and not their money.
Tall, above average looking guy with fit above average looking girl... what is your point?
You're right. Marketers who have something to sell you never lie. On another unrelated note, I have some pristine real estate to sell you in Florida. I promise you that you will make 500% profit on it.
Yes, lots of people have been with over 100 women, not arguing that.

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Nobody is marketing "Sinn" too strongly, so I don't see why they would lie about a particular fact like that.

10% of a small hotel is different from owning a hotel that will get you loans to buy further that you will build into an empire.

Donald Trump always signs prenuptials, and he also bought the Miss America pageant. Can't blame him for that. I can't even imagine all the beautiful girls he's been with as a result of his money and status.

If you present me with a piece of real estate, I will gladly plug in the numbers and tell you what the ROI would be, but I doubt it would be 500%.

I would want gold diggers.... there is a thing called a GOAL digger, you know. I wouldn't expect a girl not to be a GOAL digger. Why would she want any less? Why would she settle for a guy who doesn't have ambition and why wouldn't a guy (such as me) have the largest ambition possible?

"He got that ambition baby. Look in his eyes. This week he's mopping floors, next week it's the fries." Lol.

Have all the ambition in the world you want, if the girl doesn't find you physically attractive then shes not likley to get with you... unless shes a gold digger who wants your money.

Of course, if you are fine with gold digger then more power to you.

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Well, I think a lot of girls would find me physically attractive. Especially now that I have my "black suit" and will start to work out.... but the money and brain sure does help. I noticed a bartender paying close attention to me when I started talking about how I was venturing in to exotic car rentals in a couple years.... and another paying attention when I was sitting at the bar talking to contractors about building a house....

I don't think I'm ugly. In fact, I've been told I look like Joaquin Phoenix twice and Matthew McConaughey twice in recent memory. People used to call me handsome all the time in high school, and when I was 22, I used to hear "hot" all the time.... not so much any more, though.... I really need a new haircut. That would help. I need to spend $50 on a professional looking haircut. I think I will do that tomorrow and post a pic.

Looks like you have it all figured out.

Good luck.

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Are you being sarcastic?

Plus, if you go out to enough places with enough girls around, SOMEONE is bound to find you attractive.....

Plus, girls can overlook a guy even if he's not model looking if he has a good personality..... you know this, right?

They are attracted to STATUS just as much as looks. You must know this, right? And would I have status if I ran a successful real estate development and investment firm? Probably. If I bossed around contractors all day and made sure everything was done to my exact specifications? Probably.

What about whoever owns the Hilton chain of hotels? Is he a male model? Hell if I know, and I don't even want to bother googling to find out what he looks like....

What about Hugh Heffner? He sure is not model and look at his gf's....

Others...... Jay Z, etc. etc.... professional athletes, musicians, actors, and really anyone who can reach that top 1% peak of having STATUS in whatever that means in today's society....

Haven't you ever noticed that girls will date the "manager" at a restaurant or the owner of a company, etc.... it's not based on his looks..... he could look the exact same and be the fry cook at McDonald's and not have that wife or girlfriend. Do you not believe me?

This is why it's important to be more successful than the guy next to you.

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Sure but the ones that find you attractive may not be the ones you find attractive. That said, I dont know what you look like.
Sure, as long as she finds you attractive enough to fuck. I always tell guys you dont have to be a model, you just have to look good enough that she would be willing to fuck. She doesnt have to look at you and think "OMG, hes SOOOO hot." She seeing you and thinking "hey, hes cute" is good enough in most cases.
Some are, most arent.
Probably.
I've already agreed that money will get you women.
If your mating stragety involves becoming highly famous... I wish you luck.

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Not necessarily famous. Just successful and rich. And I'm not trying to "mate" at this point. But by the time I do... hopefully I will be well endowed financially.

Very true. And being a male model with a bird brain probably isn't too attractive to most women... but I can't speak for them.

How can you not know what I look like? It's on my profile picture.

The pic is small and slightly out of focus.

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