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 Post subject: 21 year old virgin
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:25 pm 
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Hi. I'm Mandingo. I'm 21 years old and I live in Sweden. I'm still a virgin.

I found a website about five years ago that led me to sign up to David DeAngelo's newsletter. Later I got my first program and that was Deep Inner Game. Later I also got Man Transformation and more recently I picked up Become Mr. Right.

I think my biggest problem with actually improving and getting somewhere is committing. I start a program and then actually never DO anything. I have a good grasp on the theory, but I have very little experience in-field.

I think I have become a better person by watching David D's content, reading The Game, reading The Mystery Method etc. I've become a lot more understanding of social dynamics and a lot less whiny.
I actually think I have come a long fucking way from when I first got in contact with this community.


But still I have nothing to show for it. I have never been on a date or even kissed a girl.


I approach usually by using the two-part kiss opener and it works really well. Other than that I don't have any go-to material or default routine.

My short time goals include kissing a girl, getting a date and losing my virginity.


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 Post subject: Re: 21 year old virgin
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Welcome to the forum bro.

And let me know if you have any questions.

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 Post subject: Re: 21 year old virgin
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:39 pm 
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Stop buying programs and reading theory immediately.

Next, check out the newbie mission: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41556

It'll help you more than any book or course or newsletter. Practical, in-field experience is what you need.


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 Post subject: Re: 21 year old virgin
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:46 pm 
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Stop buying programs and reading theory immediately.

Next, check out the newbie mission: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41556

It'll help you more than any book or course or newsletter. Practical, in-field experience is what you need.
This is bang on. I made a thread with all of the good material (in my opinion) for new guys, and I ended it by really emphasising the importance of actually taking action.

If you watched 100 hours worth of YouTube videos of how to drive a car, having never actually been in one... would it really improve your driving more than 15 minutes of actually driving the car? The exact same thing applies to pick up.

Do the newbie mission (most guys make excuses, but you seem quite dedicated, I know you'll do it) and then come back in a couple days and give us the feedback!

Good luck ;)

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 Post subject: Re: 21 year old virgin
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:29 am 
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Well, as Mystery has said if you don't get out there and take action it's just evolution weeding your genes out. At some point a man has to look inside of himself and determine that he is indeed a man. And then do what a man does - take action.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:52 pm 
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Well, as Mystery has said if you don't get out there and take action it's just evolution weeding your genes out. At some point a man has to look inside of himself and determine that he is indeed a man. And then do what a man does - take action.
Even though he's weird and 99% of the time I'd say he's shit... Mystery can be so good. That's beautiful lol.

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 Post subject: Re: 21 year old virgin
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:49 pm 
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Well - I have been there. Even I am not a PUA yet, I would like to share you my thoughts.

I am 23 years old right now. Before that age I only had kissed two girls. One time when I was like 13 years old and the other one when I were 17. But I guess both times only last for a couple of seconds. So I am not sure if you should really count them.

My problem was that I was always were insecure about me appearance. To be to the point: I was too fat and not that good looking. Exactly one year ago I decided to change this. I began working out for like five times a week. I also started to learn about healthier food. I always hated the gym. But since last year I love it. It does definitely change your attractiveness. Nowadays I am not ripped or something like that, but I am looking healthy and fit. Girls like that. I still work out for at least three times a week and how I think about it now, I would never quit this.

Slightly in the process I noticed that girls started to look at me. That felt great. Probably my confidence and posture were getting better - I guess that is the most important. But I were thinking at that time, even when girls are looking at me, I still have to talk to them and eventually touch them at some point. My solution at that time was to go on a salsa courses. You meet a lot of girls and you really need to touch them - because it is part of the dance itself. Although I quitted after the course, because I wasn't really good at it: the fact that I touched a lot of random girls and that you have to lead the girls helped me a lot. Even when I am not good at salsa, sometimes I just spin a girl for fun or I have to confidence to lead them to the wall to make out or something. That isn't dancing, but it is still leading. About dancing itself, it was really fun and I have been on a salsa party one time, you can literally ask any woman to dance without getting rejected. I think this is a great way to get some field experience. At the other side - when you don't like salsa or dancing at all, then you should probably not spend to much time in it (it takes a lot of practice to get good enough to dance outside the lessons). However, you can always take just one course to do something outside your comfortzone and get that touching experience right? For me, I will start a new course in a couple of weeks, Kizomba. I took some lessons already and I think it is the most sexy dance ever. And I love the music. But that is another story.

Second thing is just go out and party. I weren't planning or suspecting anything - I even didn't read anything about the PUA game until some weeks ago, but sometimes things happens. Without any experience with girls or reading any theory I kissed with more then 10 girls, dated a couple and had sex with 3 different womans. One of them for like a month and the last one my sexbuddy right now. The reason why I am interested in being a PUA is because I want to improve what I am doing. So in my opinion you have to start somewhere first, and then you have to look what is going good or wrong. When something is going wrong, then you can study that subject and come with a new plan to fix it. Like me being insecure, working out was the start at the beginning, taking a personal coach, learning about excercises and food was to improving what was going wrong in the process.

I hope those thougts will help you. It worked for me so far from being a 23 year old virgin to getting laid and having fun with womans.


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 Post subject: Re: 21 year old virgin
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:28 pm 
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Great post Growthhacker, you are an intelligent man. You see something that isn't working and get after it to fix it. I like how you took the salsa dancing classes to get yourself more comfortable with being around women. Really cool.


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 Post subject: Re: 21 year old virgin
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:14 pm 
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Hi. I'm Mandingo. I'm 21 years old and I live in Sweden. I'm still a virgin.

I found a website about five years ago that led me to sign up to David DeAngelo's newsletter. Later I got my first program and that was Deep Inner Game. Later I also got Man Transformation and more recently I picked up Become Mr. Right.

I think my biggest problem with actually improving and getting somewhere is committing. I start a program and then actually never DO anything. I have a good grasp on the theory, but I have very little experience in-field.

I think I have become a better person by watching David D's content, reading The Game, reading The Mystery Method etc. I've become a lot more understanding of social dynamics and a lot less whiny.
I actually think I have come a long fucking way from when I first got in contact with this community.


But still I have nothing to show for it. I have never been on a date or even kissed a girl.


I approach usually by using the two-part kiss opener and it works really well. Other than that I don't have any go-to material or default routine.

My short time goals include kissing a girl, getting a date and losing my virginity.
Five fucking years and you haven't had a fuck!? And you still believe this crap works. If I was learning guitar and was following my teacher's lessons to the letter and still couldn't play after five years, I'd think there was something wrong in what I was learning.

If you want an alternative which is both more effective and also more honest, drop me a PM and I'll send you a reading list and do my best to help you out. Up to you though mate. All the best either way.


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