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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:42 am 
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1 Timothy 2:11-12: A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.

One version says "the" the other say "a".. I'm not sure how you took "The" and interpreted it as husband, but cool.

1 Corinthians 14:34: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

1 Corinthians 11:7: Man is the glory of God, woman is the glory of man: For a man is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
Wow you had replied again. Well, you think it is okay for the OP to use the girl's religion to get her to sleep with him, I completely disagree. It doesn't matter how many times you try to justify that sort of manipulation; it doesn't matter how many different Bible versions you try to use against the girl either. In the end, the girl will either follow her religion (save sex for marriage), or be fooled by the manipulation ("submit" to the OP before he is her husband). Also I don't know why you keep quoting things about women staying quiet in church. They are completely irrelevant here, and repeating them doesn't make them relevant. It makes you look irrational.

The OP said the girl is "bossy" but at the same time, there is no other way for women to stay virgin besides staying locked up somewhere. Up to a century ago, society was different and even just asking a girl out randomly would've been unacceptable behaviour. But in today's society, only the very strong kinds of girls will stay virgins. Or girls who never had any guy approach them (but even 600-pounders get boyfriends so girls like that can't possibly exist.) One thing you can know for sure, is that any moderately attractive woman who manages to stay virgin nowadays, is used to standing up to people, male or female.

Imagine for a minute, what exactly it would take for a moderately attractive woman to remain a virgin in today's society. Would a girl who does what every boyfriend tells her, really be able to stay virgin? Obviously not. She would have to be tough and even be prepared to defend what she is doing, going so far as to educate the more persistent guys about it. She absolutely cannot cave into any argument a man presents, no matter how much it seems to make sense. Because she is following a clear-cut rule and he is pursuing what he currently desires. The girl must win (by sticking to the rule), and she will not win by being indecisive or weak.
Was that a freudian slip of sorts? So you're a 600 lb former virgin, you won't get any judgment from me. In fact that is impressive. Regardless this board accepts people of all shapes, colors and creeds. Welcome!:)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:38 pm 
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Interesting how you're attacking EddieFew's apparent mysoginist bent, yet your above (bolded) statement infers that there are far fewer quality women out there than men. I'm not tossing the baby out with the bath water, you make a few points that are solid, but let's call a spade a spade.
I didn't see him as mysogynistic at all. He was simply presenting manipulative arguments which could be used to win over OP's girlfriend; I countered them because they are dishonest/incorrect.
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Was that a freudian slip of sorts? So you're a 600 lb former virgin, you won't get any judgment from me. In fact that is impressive. Regardless this board accepts people of all shapes, colors and creeds. Welcome!:)
Freudian slips are usually mistakes. I didn't make any mistakes. :P


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Interesting how you're attacking EddieFew's apparent mysoginist bent, yet your above (bolded) statement infers that there are far fewer quality women out there than men. I'm not tossing the baby out with the bath water, you make a few points that are solid, but let's call a spade a spade.
I didn't see him as mysogynistic at all. He was simply presenting manipulative arguments which could be used to win over OP's girlfriend; I countered them because they are dishonest/incorrect.
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Was that a freudian slip of sorts? So you're a 600 lb former virgin, you won't get any judgment from me. In fact that is impressive. Regardless this board accepts people of all shapes, colors and creeds. Welcome!:)
Freudian slips are usually mistakes. I didn't make any mistakes. :P
Who really is to say what's "honest" or inaccurate or not at the end of the day they're just opinions based on frames we live by. I'd intervene only insofar as it may cause damage unto another. Not sure this situation applies though I didn't get caught-up in the religious rigmarole between the two of you, and i don't really care to.

That said, I do agree that manipulative tactics aren't a good thing, and unfortunately a lot of PUA theory perpetuates this.


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