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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:48 pm 
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Day 1.

Hi, this is TheUnforgiven from Spain. Pleased to meet you guys.

I'm still improving my English skills, but my English is good enough too be understandable.

I'm going to create my own journal for two reasons:

1. I want to become proficient in English and this is a way to write everyday.
2. Today is the second anniversary of first time I read about PickUp and I've been very lazy since last 6 months. I'm getting older. This summer I wanna create something epic again.

I will be pleased to hear your advices and I will try to help you.

Tomorrow I will tell you about me, today is my presentation


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:11 pm 
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Bienvenidos amigo.

Soy de los EEUU pero hablo fluido al Espanol. Si tengas algo pregunta, me pides aydua. Se q quieres aprender el Ingles pero a veses no sabemos como decirlo en otra lengua.

Buena suerte ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:33 pm 
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Gracias amigo!

Lo mismo digo si tienes alguna del español o quieres mejorarlo, yo estoy dispuesto a ayudarte.

I've just started to work in a night club here in Valencia, it is really cool. I attach a photo. All people who is reading this journal have free entry.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:35 am 
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Hey dudes, how is it going?

I'm going to tell you my story. It's important to my future because some of my feelings and beliefs have a connexion with my "old times". I will give you some examples in the future.

I was 16 years old, I lived in a small town with my parents. I had problems with dad because he had a really bad temperament.  I was skinny and social marginalised, but one day I decided to start swimming. My town had a really cool pool and teenagers went there to play and enjoy the summer with friends.

I started with 50 meters but after a month going every single day I did 2 km everyday. I become popular and I had a really fit body. Moreover, I have no time to play with other people after swimming because I had to come back to home before 5:00 PM to play piano, if not my father shouted me. People didn't know I was obligated to come back so I was interesting for them. I had a business, a responsibility with myself.

My life was 8 hours studying piano and 1 hour swimming. A fucking shit because I wasn't happy, my father was but I wasn't. In that moment she appeared. I saw her for the first time while I was swimming, she was the most gorgeous girl with my age in my town. Every guy wanted to have something with her.

 She was very likeable and spoke with all people. She said me several times "Hi" but every time I replied things like "Hi, I have no time sorry." "Hi, how are you?" Or indeed "Sorry I can't talk with you now, I have to swim" I did it because I was too shy to have a conversation with her. But it worked.

That summer I had to attend a course in Switzerland, so I had few days to tell her what I felt. I did it and the rest is history.

This is the best seduction I've ever done. The most natural, the most powerful, the most unconscious.

The purest.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:02 am 
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I've been reading other journals but the majority of you have an indirect game, with openers, etc. I'm not, I don't feel OK learning quotes.

I think it's more important "how to speak" than "what to say".

I've organised a meeting this Saturday, I would like to create a new group. They have no experience but when I started I had the same situation.

The objectives I have this summer is to become a master in any field. A friend of mine is famous model and he is the most successful guy I've ever seen. He can kiss 10 girls per night and he fucks each night he goes out.

While I was writing this post, I received a SPAM from him. The message was:

 -I'm reading "Magic bullets" by Savoy. This is the best book I've read.

+ What's wrong with you? You meet at least two really gorgeous girls every time we go out and do you want more?

- Italians my friend, it's necessary. Here in Valencia we have a lot of Italians in summer and many of them are really good. I don't want to lose models, do you?

He is crazy, I'm not but I would like this summer. I will start to read Magic bullets, after a year without reading books about seduction.


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OK Savoy don't fit with me. I think it's stupid to have something to say before go out. I'm thinking how this people say they live the moment if they study what to say in the future. It's stupid.

Please, don't tell me I have no idea or experience. I don't like this books seem to be written for kids.

If anyone could recommend me any good book without the goal of be a machine. I would be thankful.


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When I started this journal I didn't image people believe in indirect methods yet.

My English is not good enough but in the future I will change this world. One of the most stupid things I've found here is people practicing dialogues with women like an actor. The second is the goals they have, I don't think "I have to have sex with 3 girls this week" this is not an alpha attitude.

For my opinion: I don't say Indirect method, Neil Strauss' books, Mystery's books... don't work. Of course, they can. But what are you doing with your life? You're so poor you have to hide your feelings under the winner-alpha image?

In the future when the show ends, what do you want to think about yourself?

Fuck your pick up dudes, if you don't get laid in a year they will disappear of your life because you're a looser.


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Calm down bro, A LOT of people belive in direct game hear. You need to realize that most of the people who have journals (myself included) are newbs/RAFC's so they tend to resort to indirect game. They play hide the salami and hope that when they abruptly turn sexual the girl will be turned on.

Field reports, where the fuck are your field reports bro? I look forward to reading them. There are a lot of experienced members that can help you out and go into your field reports with you, but you need to be honest in them.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:30 am 
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You're right but I'm 19 to 20 and I'm living with mum in a small town and I only can go to Valencia two times per week. This is why I can't make day game for the moment and why I didn't write a field report yet.

Last night, I met D. one year older than me, so beauty. She was Spanish but was born in Ukrainia. Really lovely.

I work in a club, in front of the beach. Pepe, one of my best friends finished the exams and wanted to go to my club with his class to celebrate it. I though, "I will go with them, first of all to enjoy the party and secondly sure there are beautiful girls in his class and thanks to have a friendship with him they haven't got dissonances"

I arrived late, because I didn't want to wait anyone. When I arrived two friends I met one night a couple of months ago, run to hug me. They had a really cool image of me because the night I met them I kissed two girls and got many numbers. But I'm not silly this night wasn't the night for be direct and talk with anyone.

I talked with everyone in our group, they were 20. I have good luck, there were three girls I liked but after a talk to know about their life with each one I knew the most beautiful was the only who was single. I had a goal. OK,  now don't worry I deceided go step by step because I noticed I liked her.

What I mean with step by step:
1. Be patient and wait for the opportunity.
2. Don't talk with other girls in the club.
3. Create sexual tension slowly.

Seduction to me isn't unidirectional, each situation is unique and you have to be smart to know what to do.

We went into the club, we start to dance. First guy went to speak with her, no problem I had a plan B if she decided to look for someone else, but not girls aren't stupid, they know when have to wait and when not. Welcome the second, third and fourth guy, they come to talk with her too. I was dancing with my friends as a child, then when the Dj put a latin song to dance I looked her and we shared a lovely dance. Time was stopped to me.

After I forgot her for a while, I have all the night. I went with my friends to help, they wanted to find someone but I didn't flirt with anyone. My energy and my mind was with D. When we returned I looked for her eyes and we keep looking each other for many seconds. Then I said "I want to see the sunrise with you" she smiled.

After an hour when we wanted to go to the beach, the entire class want too. So I find a trouble, I didn't want our first kiss was in front of our friends, so one more time I have patience but to be secure I asked her how she had to come back to home, she told me by train I told her I would take her home with my car. She smiled again. In the beach with friends she sit down on my right and we start to caress each other, I kissed on the shoulder on the head but I didn't want to kiss her in front of our friends. I put more wood to the bonfire to have a real passion kiss at the end of the night.

And then after the sunrise, after tell stories about crazy adventures, after laugh, after everything. We went together to my car and before to go into, I stopped her and we shared a passion moment. All the night, all the game, each glance, each smile was contained in that kiss. And the rest is history.

Maybe I could kiss her after 10 minuts but to me it's not the same. I have more feelings and enjoy more if we share an history.

This is the way I enjoy pickup world. But today I've organised a meeting with new Pua boys and maybe we will make crazy things. Today I think I won't be romantic. I promise


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Saturday night, I met with new people. They went to my club. Many things happened. I was the alpha into the group but I hated it. My friends told me I had to tell a speech to motivate them, finally they were motivated and talked with many girls. I'm not conformable with the idea I'm good flirting.

I have dissonances with myself because I kiss girls every night I go out, then my friends have an image of me... you can imagine. I can't say tonight I don't want to kiss any girl because they say, hey what's wrong? So many times I'm frustrated.

Anyway, I want to learn two disciplines this summer and to recuperate one of my great hobbies: swimming. The other two is callisthinetics and bachata/kizomba/salsa. Here in Valencia there are two types of clubs:

1. Small clubs for 300 people
2. Huge clubs for 5000 people

My club is huge and if you met a girl and you have to leave a moment, you have 90% of probability to don't find her again. Last summer it happened so much times. This summer will be different.

My club is cool because it has different scenarios, they have differents dance floors, couches, a fountain. Then, it's perfect to meet someone. One of the things I noticed on the dance floor, it's better to dance before to talk with the girl. They are not stupid, indirect game in my club it's difficult because there are a lot of people, you have possibilities every night and it's so difficult to be patient. But too direct talking it's not the best to meet someone because many guys have tried it before you, really direct to kiss her in less than 3 minutes have to be physic. Anyway, each situation is unique, in seduction to me 2+3 won't be 5 ever.

I go with PUA friends and you can see, they love flirting two kilometers away. They love flower shirts, walk as a seducer... too much direct and seducer. Many times it's difficult to create a real connexion with a girl if they are with you, you seem a liar. They aren't good, they only speak with so many girls.

One of the  myths in seduction is girls love the man who have women. But listen, for us: is it the same if there are a girl who everyone desire than a girl who is desired and have been with a lot of guys?. Maybe for you it's the same, but there are girls (at least in Spain) have a brain and if you're with a different girl every night, it would be normal than a really intelligent women don't think to have a relationship with you. To meet someone it's an emotional investment and time investment.

The exit is too much delicate, you have to create a balance in you.

I really like this video, they are better dancers than me.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:01 pm 
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I never said that you should daygame. You were talking about how no one's Field Reports were direct. I was explaining why.

Anyways, you talk a big game but quite bluntly I don't see much. "I didn't want to kiss her in front of my friends" or "I wanted to be romantic" doesn't work. What society portrays as romantic actually comes off as creepy. For example, in How I met your Mother when Ted finally meets his wife and pauses and says "I'm remembering this moment" - Creepy. In The Aviator when DiCaprio says "I just want to pleasure you" - Creepy.

If you want to go Direct, go Direct. It works well. I wish I was near clubs with 5000 people, that'd be sick.

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Doesn't work? The most important is "don't be stupid" and that night in that situation I could be romantic.  Don't be stupid, don't you like when a girl you like do anything romantic to you? The only you have to know what, when and why.

I don't want to be anything, I can't become anything here and don't want your validation. I understand your philosophy, but it isn't the only you can have to be successful and for my opinion it isn't the best neither.

But this is my advice: don't try to do everything well, try to don't make a mistake. You will be happier and successful as well.


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Bro, you need to work on your English. You are not listening to what I am saying. Get what the media portrays as romantic out of your head.

Also, you can be as stupid as you want. Fuck, being stupid helps. Why the fuck are most Engineers bad with women? They overthink shit. I have said some of the dumbest shit to women. You know Leslie's Pool Supplies? I was at a party saying "What's the deal with Leslie? First of all, is Leslie a He or a She? Did Leslie own a grand pool and her Kid drowned in it so know she cemented over the pool or something and now she has a whole bunch of pool supplies that she's trying to get rid of?" Probably the dumbest thing I've ever said. That girl couldn't stop laughing.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:36 pm 
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"Get what the media portrays as romantic out of your head."

I dont think acting like in a movie. I don't know what you understand as romantic but to me if I decide when and how to kiss a girl to potency the passion and the quality of the moment, it's better to us. I don't like sex the first night. I have my rules because I love my way with this rules. Do you know your path? Why and for what do you do it?

My best friend is engineer and have fucked with more than 100 girls, he is 20 years old and the first in his promotion at university. Many times 2+2 are 5

I've played with friends to "how many girls can you kiss a night?"  But I prefer have an history with one girl per night and see her again. Just 1 girl you really like per night or per day. One 9 or 10 for your opinion or just one you really like.

I don't know what is Leslie pool supplies. sorry


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:38 pm 
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It's a pool equiptment store.

Passion is different than romance. Long story don't use "I didn't kiss her because it wouldn't be romantic" as an excuse. That's all I was trying to say.

I'm an engineer as well, I used engineers as an example because most are geeky as fuck and have no social competence. Anyways, I look forward to your FR's.

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