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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:29 pm 
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Like the title speaking for itself! I know a guy who such an amazing charisma that girls always fall for him ... I cannot even compete with him. I tried emulating him but turns into tragedy . Lol

Like I try to really be myself and try to tell funny stories , bantering, cheeky compliments ... But when he does it girls go gaga for him.

I thought maybe its because of my English, But now i am convinced that that is not even a problem


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:28 am 
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Note : I've read the game and now reading the natural by gambler . It really took me so long into getting comfortable with talking to women, and now I can say I get less tense when I approach and have more to talk about than prior self .
And I do well when I push pull and banter.

Does the book the game and natural fix your charisma or is it something you have to build yourself ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:42 am 
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I wouldn't suggest comparing yourself to others. Or trying to be someone you are not. Simply observe and absorb. See what elements of his personality make him funny.

You should be observant of charismatic people in general and learn from them all. Is it the way they are dressed? Their confidence? Their role models? What could possibly lead them to be that attractive?

All simple questions. Then forge your own path. Incorporate little bits into your personality, stick to what works for you, become a deeper person. You don't need to become anyone else, just learn and apply what you can and become the best version of yourself. You don't need to remain a certain way, no one is stuck to their ways, specially if you want to change, you can.

The universe has no prefferences, just stick to what you believe in and make shit happen.

You can be as cool as you want.

I've noticed some people have exceptional personalities tho, but that shouldn't hold you back from trying to be your best even if you dont posses that level of charisma.

Figure out what your strenghts are and focus on them, always work on what you are lacking of course.

But there isn't one style of game. There are many. Learn the principles and build your own style.

Theres nothing more charismatic than a positive alpha male who holds his own ground.

Always keep growing.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:02 pm 
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Charisma doesn't just come out of no where man. Its something thats cultivated through a wide array of experience. Some guys good ones and sometimes bad ones. Take any guy with charisma and their will be a number of past experience(usually painful ones) that were responsible for the development of that characteristics.

A lot of guys want what I have, but they don't want to go through the pain I went through to get it. Charisma can't be taken away, because it can't be given. You have to develop it and thats what this community and website is all about. For guys to thrust themselves into uncomfortable(painful) situations and develop the fortitude necessary to have both confidence and charisma.

You can't fake this, it has to be in you. The same way you can't fake being physically strong. You have to develop the physical muscles to lift heavy weights. And you have to develop the emotional muscles to develop charisma. You're not going to gain it from reading a bunch of books. Or asking a a bunch of questions and getting a bunch of answers. You have to go out their and experience the pain, the embarrassment, the shame. You have to learn to stand in the face of those things and feel nothing. Upon doing that you will have charisma.

How many women have you approached? And how often do you go out approaching? Whats your history?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:23 pm 
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I have asked similar questions myself, and compared myself to others. It is good to make such comparisons as long as you don't think you have to be someone you're not - as long as you accept yourself, your strengths and your flaws. Here is what I found, both about others and myself:

Charismatic people are often outgoing, social, always have things to say and (this is important!) quite often get their energy and motivation to be that way from the VALIDATION(!!!) they get from others. With other words, they have found a way to be attractive, and it is reinforced and rewarded through validation. There are pros and cons with this. The good thing is that once you find a way to attract people, it will get easier to stay that way. However, validation is like a drug. You get used to it, and getting validation will become your new normal (the effect wears off). And what happens when the validation goes away? You'll crash and become depressed. So, as always, it's about finding the right balance.

What have I learned about myself? That I can be that way for short periods of time, given that people give me the validation to keep me going. That happens with people I have chemistry with, and people who make an effort. By knowing and accepting this, I can trust my ability and I don't feel that I *have to* be charming all the time.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:42 am 
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Hey sorry for the late reply, I've just been busy with work lately . Couldn't find the time to seat down and write a long post. Let me tell you about myself and the current position I am in .

I always found myself to be an ambivert person. Both introvert and extrovert. There are times that I love being social, and sometimes I just stay quiet and listen to what ppl are saying without having anything to say.

Note: I have so much to say , but I am not going to write them all down in one post .

After studying the game, it gave me a better understanding about how to be social and attractive . Sometimes I put a lot of energy into being a character I have in mind so people could see my value .

Anyways about my current situation, i work at a restaurant mostly 6 days a week including weekends. The pay is great but physically exhausting so I don't really have time to go out in bars and night clubs . But to be fair I do have a a lot of chances to approach women in the day. Also one reason I chose this job is because it has many female staff and i see it to be as my training field on socializing and experimenting my routines on these female coworkers .
Also note that this place is HUGE it has 3 floors . Which it can be both an advantage and disadvantage .

First week when I started , I was very friendly and the staff were too, but most of the attractive females weren't comfortable to socialize with me. Oh man, some made me feel very awkward at times .

There's is this guy I'm working with, he is very charismatic and always has something to say to these women. Most of the times he's just talking to me and the females approach and highjack the conversation and talk to him then the subject quickly changes to something that I have no idea about , as if I'm not even there.

The opposite also happened, I'm talking to these women then boom there's this guy behind me says something and quickly grabs their attention ....

I have however improved my body language which it had an amazing effect. Like for instance , this guy is talking to two beautiful women at the hostess table, I slam my hand on the counter in the middle of their conversation (not too crazy hard) grab the womens attention , say something funny , make them laugh and before I know it they are talking to me. But I quickly run blank and say okay I gotta go back to whatever I was doing.

My big issue is I have a problem carrying a conversation without boring these HBs. So I made up some canned materials for myself mostly funny to use .

Sometimes I open with complimenting them on how they look.
Like saying,
Me : "I love your jacket, it really looks nice on you. "
Hb9: bla bla bla
Me: you're now almost the female version of my self ( credit to Gambler )
Hb9: bursts out laughing and compliments me

Or

Me: (slams hand on to something to make a noize) hey HB, you gotta go talk to the managers right now ..
HB8 : why?
Me: you're going to take your next week off, pack your bags, and then you're coming with me
Hb8: lol, where are we going?
Me: were going on a trip to Fiji !
HB8: oh, okay !! Lol 0.o
Me: yea it's going to be so much fun. We're gonna go snorkelling ( I say it with a deep and witty tone then which at this point she quickly bursts out laughing , and her eyes move upwards picturing it ) were gonna go horseback riding on the beach, sit by the fire and lose ourselves staring into the sea ( I would have made it more sexual but I'm too scared to do it with a coworker)

Hb8 : yea I would love to do that. (And she keeps smiling.)

then I noticed she comes around where I am at a different room to help me clean up a table even though she's a bartender and has never done that hehe

Few nights before that conversation with the bartender, the staff went to a bar after closing for a guys birthday. Right at last call bought two shots for myslef and saw her lingering around. I tap her shoulder and invited her for drink. Her face lit up as if wow really ? Me ? Gave her the shot and said our cheers. She was standing next to me and I stared At the tv to see if she say something . So she started asking about my shift the later I quickly made rapport with her and told her a Dhv story about myself and she was really into me. I started kino and next thing I know it I'm caressing her back naturally . I made her laugh , but then she got up to meet with her friends and I stayed where I was.

Now after my Fiji comment few days later,
Unfortunately , her behaviour changes back to how she was around me by being dull the next day I see her. by no eye contact but just being simply nice . She doesn't say hi to me when she sees me but just smiles and looks away.
She's not being awkward about it, but not the kind of behaviour I was looking to get from her


I have more stories to say , but I gotta go right now


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:08 am 
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Btw sorry for my terrible writing . English is my second language which it is something I need to improve on.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:32 am 
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I agree with what most of the people here have been saying. Great charisma isn't something you gain overnight.

That said though I used to have real trouble carrying on a conversation with a HB and a lot of the time it felt like I was putting in all the effort and she was just kind of standing there whipping out the same boring replies she probably gave a dozen other guys that night.

See since men are always the ones approaching and maintaining conversations with women there's this real pressure on us to be great conversationalists, which is why a lot of gorgeous girls have no idea how to maintain a conversation. They don't need to, they are always being approached and all the work in the conversation is done for them.

What you should do is turn this around on them. After you ask them a question and they give you a standard boring reply then just keep looking at them expectantly. Don't say anything. Just maintain eye contact, as if you're still waiting for them to continue.

Most of the time girls will pick up on this and they'll continue talking. Their end of the conversation will become a lot richer and they may even open up to you a little more. It's also makes it easier for you to continue the conversation as they'll mention more things that you can pick up on and run with.

Example:
You: You from around here?
Her: Yeah...
*maintain eye contact and look at her expectantly*
Her: Yeah I've lived here all my life, I love this town... etc etc

Try it out when the conversation is struggling. Let us know how it goes

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:56 pm 
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I wanna to distinguish between when women are being shy or just being uninterested . When I'm talking to some of the girls at work, well they give very little eye contact . They're always looking down doing something to show that they're busy while I talk to them . Or when walking past by me they are looking the other way.

Idk if I'm over thinking it but my real question is that do women tend to ignore a guy even though they are interested ?


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