My First ABG: Already Been Gamed



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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:50 am 
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I have been gaming this girl in one of my classes and I have been getting great rapport with her. Turns out we live in the same apartment complex and we've seen each other taking out our trash and whatnot. We've already spent 2 times in the hot tub at the clubhouse, talking with moderate kino from both of us. I would describe it as a comfortable relationship right now...

Well the first time we hung out (it was 1/2 price wine night at a local restaurant) I ran the Ring Routine on her and as I was doing it she started citing it back to me exactly. At the time I gave her the benefit of the doubt and figured that she had just come across it online or something. Well tonight we had gone to the hot tub again and I decided to run the Strawberry Fields routine on her...which she hadn't heard before but then she said "There's one of these little personality tests called The Cube too!" So being the smoothie that I am, I just played dumb about it and let her tell me about it (I didn't let her run the routine on me) and without me asking, she told me that the same guy that had done the Ring Routine on her had also done The Cube on her! I didn't really pry to see what else might have been run on her or if there was any escalation using Style's EV or Mystery's Methods, and she didn't mention "The Game" itself. Just the routines.

I almost couldn't believe it. I've never had this happen before. Most girls I've met haven't had the routine's run on them! I was pretty good just using "natural" moves before discovering the game and I had to route back to those which may have saved the interaction. I had to be quick on my feet and work the angles a little bit. This truly made me realize that the routines are definitely more for those new to the game, and that I need to put more emphasis on developing more of my own tactics.

So after I drove her back down the hill from the hot tub, she seemed reluctant to get out of my truck so I said "Hey, Would you like to kiss me?" (Mysteries Kiss Close) and she responded "Will you get mad if I say "not right now"?" to which I responded "No, I understand." (Using discretion just like in the kiss close method). She then leaned in to me from across my truck and turned her head and we kissed each other on the cheek...It was definitely a good vibe to end the night on.

Any suggestions on escalating and getting the full kiss close? Don't worry about me trying any more routines on her, I'm going to be careful with those from now on.

To be quite honest this really looks to me like Neil Strauss' situation in the last few chapters of his book "The Game" where all the girls are getting gamed and there aren't any un-approached...then the one girl that he falls for and doesn't respond to any part of the game becomes his next girlfriend. Maybe I've found one of the rare ones...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:37 pm 
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Since she's been gamed and you're running routines on her. She won't feel that comfortable with you because she thinks you're playing with her. Ungame her; how? Simply taking your game down a notch so it flies under the radar. Act like you're busy when she calls and call her about 2-3 times a week but alter each day. Say you call her monday, don't call her until weds or thurs. If you call herfirday then call her on monday and make her feel like you're busy with you're own life.

Also, to build comfort on her just be yourself. In the C1 stage. Build comfort by screening her. Screen is when you ask her quesitons or EV from her. Make sure you come up with your own ideas and take notes of what works. Also date other women and make her feel jealous that she's missing out on a great guy you are. If she's into you then she'll stay in the game. Women loved to be gamed so don't get the impression that gaming her is wrong. You can game her but be more subtle in your ways. Make sure it's not obvious as you mentioned in your thread. Good luck and tell me how it went. Peace out!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:11 pm 
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Hey I just realized I forgot to tell you guys that this girl had gone home the previous weekend and mentioned she was kind of emotionally stressed because she had an EX boyfriend that she saw and admitted that it was an "on again, off again" relationship. (She didn't tell me which it was at that particular time) The background of this relationship is that she dumped him the first time, then he dumped her. (For starters, I don't know what the rest of that progression consisted of). So if she dumped him the first time, then obviously she wasn't happy with him for one reason or another.

I'm not going to say that this was a lightbulb in my head revelation, but it might have (most likely) played a role in the occurrences of that night.

Should I start working in some Boyfriend Destroyers for this girl? (Or Ex-BF Destroyers in this case)

I have had fairly good success with this before, but I coined a phrase once that goes "People change, but you can't change people meaning that more than likely, people will stay in a bad relationship because that is all they KNOW and are blinded to opportunities for improvement in their lives. (Be it a new job, boyfriend, friends)

I'll play it by ear and listen to everyone's suggestions. Thanks guys

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