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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:18 pm 
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This is yesterday's pickup with my fave wingman Luis Ramos in timesquare...
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12:05 PM 5/21/2015
GAME ADVICE

College campuses are a goldmine and imo, the best place in the world to do pickup. It's a x1000 better and easier than attempting to pickup girls on the street or in a park because there is no bitch shield since (A) it's a social enviornment where chatting up people is normal and (B) girls are concerned about their reputation so they won't risk telling you "fuck off, creep" because they don't want to have later deal with the awkwardness of seeing you every day. Now compare that with daygame anywhere else: it's weird, unnatural and is mostly tailered to targets that are outgoing and trusting enough not to run away from intimidation. (Of course you can overcome those obstacles with high enough level of game).

The only problem is the college security. Officially you're not allowed to go inside unless you're a student attending the college: the exception being CUNY students. CUNY students have full access to all the libraries in all the CUNY colleges. In my opinion, it's worth paying $200 a semester for a single credit class in order to get the student ID to access all these great places. It will give you a boost of entitlement, allow you to game hardcore (without worrying of attracting attention) and is stress free.

However, today I was able to get access inside the college without showing my ID. Some college securities are weak but some are impenetrable fortresses like Baruch College. The only way to get in is to swipe your card through a machine. (P.S. I'm now enrolled back into college so I have a student ID. YAY).

I did it because I knew I would forgive myself If I didn't do that. I'd come back home kicking myself - thinking: "I'm such a fuckin ball-less wuss wimp and I hate my life because I'm a coward." It's AMAZING how much my ego and self-esteem is tied into pickup. But today's victory proves that I have incredible potential and need to keep doing pickup to achieve it. I feel absolutely incredible for being awesome :D :D

The second best place to do pickup is in parks, coffee-shops and libraries. The reason being that seated and walking sets are a ton easier than stopping a walking girl on the street. (source:MM). The other reason why seated sets are better are as follows


CONCLUSION: I DECIDED TO KEEP DOING DAYGAME AT LEAST FOR NOW
I have fallen in love with pickup and I know that this is what I want to do in life. There's no other hobby in the world that gaves me such enjoyment as doing pickup. It gives me a reason to live, makes me happy and gives me something to look forward to: instead of long boring dull days. Once I hit college I'll need to take a break to take my mind off studying nonstop: pickup will be there for me. Now I don't know if I'll do this forever but as long as it's giving me value: I'll keep going. The main reason why I've been discouraged from my passion was because I felt a lack of progress but I think I can pinpoint exactly the source of this lack---> reflecting on everything except specific technical outer-game techniques, ---> not doing mass sets outside my state and ---> acting low-status around big-mouthed ninja KJs. Once I get back into the game, I'm going to do a few things differently (which I'll list shortly).

There are a few things stopping me: #1: It's going to suck when my dad finds out about me doing pickup - which will probably be eventually. I thought he would cut off contact with me if he did but upon closer observation I see that notion is absurd. Although this detered me before, I'm not going to let it do so any longer. If my dad finds out, then so be it. I don't care. It will be awkward but I'll get over it eventually and there's nothing he can do or say that will change my mind. I'm not going to change my entire life - just for one person. He gave birth to me but he doesn't control my destiny. And #2: I know that flirting with girls is a sin but I've decided that I'm going to keep being religious and doing everything that I have to do: except this one thing. I'm still going to keep talking to girls and if I go to hell for this, then so be it. Although I will stop wasting seed immediately: that's a grave sin and nothing can justify it. #3: I have a good reputation in the Jewish world and I have been trying to hide my pickup lifestyle from them but it's falling apart. The bottom line is that if I keep going down this path, I'll be exposed as not fully orthodox and then it will be hard to marry an orthodox very religious girl (which was a childhood dream of mine). I'll guess I'll have to sacrifice that wish because in this word, you can have anything but you can't have everything. Without making sacrifices, you can't achieve anything great.

So it looks like I'm back in the game at least for now. I doon't know for how long though but I'm going to give it another shot. This time, like I said, I'm going to do a few things differently.

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p.s. video of me gaming chicks in a new college campus is going to be posted today so stay tuned

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The second best place to do pickup is in parks, coffee-shops and libraries. The reason being that seated and walking sets are a ton easier than stopping a walking girl on the street. (source:MM). The other reason why seated sets are better are as follows
A few weeks ago, when I told you about the issues of moving sets, you pretty much blew me off.

Interesting that you now accept this advice since it's coming from a "professional".


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:51 pm 
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Just watched your videos. Here's my feedback:

Interaction 1 - Boring conversation about classes. You NEED to demonstrate some sort of interesting personality soon after. Make her life, smile, SOMETHING. Get the positive emotions going. Your conversation pretty much drifted off to nowhere's land. By the time the bus pulled up she was rearing to go - not because of your looks, but because the conversation was dead boring/uninteresting


ALSO you need more eye contact. Focus on her and let her focus on you.

Interaction 2 - Same issue when you began. Boring conversation. It picked up a bit when you made the cold reads about them being a nursing student and data analysis - they gave a genuine laugh! I think you spend a bit too long on the boring conversation bit - Thankfully as these were STATIC sets (cough cough) on an easier environment they didn't run away immediately, and you managed to display some sort of personality.

Overall, I'd say that you need to listen to yourself and vary your tonality and body language. You come across very low energy and quiet, which doesn't help to draw them into your reality. I'm not saying you should begin shouting, but putting more enthusiasm into your conversation will definitely help. Your tonality is really FLAT which kinda makes the conversation feel a lot more boring.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:53 pm 
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Also, you ramble on a bit too much. You get a bit too abstract, and your flat tonality does not mesh well with a lot of the things you say. Keep your discussion GROUNDED and relevant.

You started off slowly, then built up a connection for a bit when you joked around, then went waaaaay off the tracks by rambling too much. Give them time to talk about themselves and let them invest themselves in the conversation.


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@Chocolate
Thank you for your analysis of my game and I will read and respond as soon as I have the time. But in the meantime, here is a status update.

THE ULTIMATE PICKUP CHALLENGE.
At this very moment, I am now sitting on the megabus on my to Baltimore for what should be the GREATEST PICKUP ADVENTURE OF ALL TIME. I am one of the few people on the planet who is crazy enough to attempt a social stunt of this magnitude. I walk a lonely road because no one else has the balls to attempt such daredevilish, insane stunt. This is uncharted territory in the pickup world and by the successful execution of my plan, I will have made history. I have one and only one goal for this entire trip, and that's to do and record 50 sets a day - nothing else matters. For 10 days in a row, to do 500 sets in total - all of which will be recorded.
My greatest fear is that I will wussy out like the last time... The last time I went to Baltimore to stay by Luis Ramos, my wingman, my goal was to unleash HULK MODE but I made a few mistakes but the biggest one of them all was not doing mass sets like I originally planned.
I will now describe the details of my previous trip to Baltimore and the lessons that I can learn from that trip so as to ensure that I don't make the same mistakes twice.

1. The hardest thing of all is to get into the "pickup-zone". This is a state of mind, that you enter - after doing a few sets. Once you are this talkative state, approaching becomes x100 easier because you've developed what Dr.Destruction refers to as Approach Momentum. This is the place where you want to be if you want to succeed.
2. It's crucial to understand that getting into this headspace is the most difficult phase of all of pickup and it requires a significant amount of mental energy and time to get there (but once you are there it requires only a minimum amount of energy to maintain. State control is crucial to uphold this headspace). Therefore, once this mode has been activated you must exploit it to your full advantage - otherwise you're letting it go to waste. Take full advantage of being in the zone while you still have access to the zone.
3. This naturally leads to the next point, be cautious not to interrupt this "pickup flow" by going home, uploading videos or whatever. Because once you get your head out of the zone, it may be difficult to get back in.
4. The most important thing of all is to just approach no matter what. The outcome doesn't matter. The results don't matter. The only thing that matters is that you approach. The number one rule of all is that you make no excuses. 99.9% of your head is just bullshit excuses of why I can't approach, and that's why the number one rule is: ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSES AT ALL.
5. Avoid FB and video-editing (at least until you've reached the required number of approaches for that day). I didn't invest so much time, energy and money to go to Baltimore/PR just so I can do stuff that I can already do at home. I'm coming to Baltimore for one reason and one reason only: to do mass mass mass mass mass mass approaching because that's the one thing that I can't do in NY.
At this moment, I can't deny how horny I am - having seen all these girls in short shorts (thank you hot weather) and I am really hoping on this pickup trip to (1) sexualize the conversations, (2) try to makeout with girls in the street and (3) really push for a same day lay. After staring at the long legged girl sitting right infront of me, I'd like to imagine myself thrusting my male body organ, and entering the inside of her wet body. Then repeating this process over and over again until I can hear her squeal and cry from sexual excitement. It's mindblowing how much I have desire for things that are so gross and disgusting, yet feel so good.

While I doubt that I will achieve a same-day-lay during this pickup adventure, at least I want to have sexualized conversation and some sexual touching. Both of these are very possible and depend on three things: (1) having the balls to do it (which 99.99% of the world lacks) and (2) having a playful, funny, childlike vibe that allows you to get away with stuff and (3) keeping a casual, light-hearted, relaxed vibe that also allows you to get away with pulling stunts like this.
Here are a few additional pickup lessons that I'm going to implement:
1. Opening with dominance and being assertive to ensure that the girl continues her social interaction with me and doesn't ignore me under the pretext of "I didn't hear him" or "I have to go..."
2. Opening every girl within sight and not allowing opportunities to slip by. I have to seize every chance that I have. Who knows? The last girl you approach at the end of the day, can be the ONE.
3. Not observing the actual social interaction that we're having (until at least after the hookpoint) because this causes the girl to realize that this is a "pickup" and forces a decision as to whether or not she wants to continue... But rather if I recieve objections such as "I have to go", I will counter-attack with "Oh I have to go too" or "Oh no thanks but I already have a girlfriend" and then instantly plow forward with new content(not allowing her to interject).
4. !! This is one is most important. I need to actually go direct and tell her that I like her. This is the one that I almost never do but it's a critical piece of the puzzle because it then justifies the date and the number close.
5. Approach girls that are in their prime. As Krauser would put it "Hotter. Younger. Tighter." These girls are a higher priority than other girls. If you are talking to an ugly or older girl, then see a prettier one - dump her and go for the prettier one. There are a few reasons for this: (1) Greater self-enjoyment. (2) It will give me sexual satisfaction when I make sexual comments in her presence and finally (3) my viewers appreciate higher quality girls - so it's a good thing to give back to the community.
6. If the girl is with her mom then the best way to get the mom's approval is NOT to ask "Is it OK if I talk to your daughter?" but rather engage the mom in conversation by asking her a simple question or using Soul's line "So that's your sister, huh?" But whatever you do, do not ignore the mom because that would explode the cockblocker into a mad cockblocker on steroids. RULE ‪#‎NO‬.1 ALWAYS
ACKNOWLEDGE THE MOM. Simple nice guy friendly conversation is sufficient to disarm her and demonstrate MASSIVE confidence. The mere fact of you talking to her mom shows confidence because a lot of guys would be terrified of her. +It shows that you sincerely think of yourself as a good guy that's good for her daughter because you have nothing to hide.
7. This is the most simple transition in the world that can be used at any point of the conversation: "Your cute. What's your name?"

Me and Luis Screaming our heads off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiIPYgL5lj0


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:22 am 
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Ok i'm back now after a long hard day and I'm going to make a quick reflection of the day so as to gain the wisdom from the event. That's what I'm going to try to do: Get smarter every day from personal introspection done by reflecting on the day's events and seeing what I can learn from them. Also because I love writing, it's a good time. I feel like absolute shit right now but I'm going to endure the pain to attempt to start this habit of writing everyday.

The entire idea of doing 50 sets a day was a good idea in theory but TERRIBLE in reality. Because the high, intense pressure sucks the fun out of the adventure. This leads to a burn out. And the super serious mentality of "omg omg omg i have to do sets, i have to do sets, i have to do sets, i have to do sets" takes away from the mindset "i'm going to enjoy myself and a have good time with beautiful people" (which is an attractive mindset to have).

Then if I fail this high standard, it's a blow to my self-esteem, confidence and makes me feel terrible: so in is a way I was setting myself up to fail. This lead me to feelings of HATING pickup, thoughts of quiting and seeing it as a chore that I just want to get over with - instead of a thrilling hobby.

Life is about balance.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:25 pm 
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Just watched your videos. Here's my feedback:

Interaction 1 - Boring conversation about classes. You NEED to demonstrate some sort of interesting personality soon after. Make her life, smile, SOMETHING. Get the positive emotions going. Your conversation pretty much drifted off to nowhere's land. By the time the bus pulled up she was rearing to go - not because of your looks, but because the conversation was dead boring/uninteresting


ALSO you need more eye contact. Focus on her and let her focus on you.

Interaction 2 - Same issue when you began. Boring conversation. It picked up a bit when you made the cold reads about them being a nursing student and data analysis - they gave a genuine laugh! I think you spend a bit too long on the boring conversation bit - Thankfully as these were STATIC sets (cough cough) on an easier environment they didn't run away immediately, and you managed to display some sort of personality.

Overall, I'd say that you need to listen to yourself and vary your tonality and body language. You come across very low energy and quiet, which doesn't help to draw them into your reality. I'm not saying you should begin shouting, but putting more enthusiasm into your conversation will definitely help. Your tonality is really FLAT which kinda makes the conversation feel a lot more boring.

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I thought it would be faster to just make a video about your comments instead of writing an entire novel about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U47hYP4Z4uM

I've also been doing a lot of approaches here in M.D. but I'll write about the experience later. In the meantime, here are the videos...

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This one is my favorite where I pickup a girl infront of her mom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHXndui8Y0I


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:12 pm 
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Hey Cupid, saw your vid response. I'm confused though...how do you have time for only ONE thing ie pickup? You say you've been doing this for 2 years, then you're practicing badly. I mean...you can actually be a beast at approaching, and do 50 approaches a day, within 4 hours. I'm not advocating that, but you're out of school, and the only thing you can focus on his pickup, which equates to a few approaches here and there. If this is your sole focus, I dont agree with that, but heck...do more with the time if that's the case. You should have 300 approaches a week if pickup is your only hobby and you quit school for it. There are many many guys who learn this stuff, do more approaches than you, work a 9-5, go on dates, play a sport, hang out with friends, hang with family, sleep with chicks and still do another hobby. If you are doing this solely with your life, you should be doing MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more than a few approaches a week.


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This one is my favorite where I pickup a girl infront of her mom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHXndui8Y0I
I like that one too. You kept the conversation going pretty well. :)

Just in regards to moving sets, I wouldn't discount them entirely. One of my closet lays was with a walking set. I was driving along and saw a woman who really took my fancy walking along on the sidewalk. I did a U-turn and parked my car just slightly ahead of her so I could get out and cross paths with her. However just as I got out she crossed the road so to approach her I would now have to walk up from behind.

So I caught up with her and started to walk along side her.

Me: Hey, how are you?
Her: Good thanks.
Me: Oh wow, you're very sexy! (I pretended I just noticed just then!)

Anyway, we walked and talked for a bit (maybe just for a minute or two) and then she said casually as we reached the front of her place "Well I'm at number *. Come around if you ever get bored". She was busy then and it looked like she had family who had just arrived.

That was pretty much a lay right there but unfortunately it didn't pan out. I drove to her place in the evening but I couldn't see her number on any of the apartments. I went back a couple of days later after work in the daytime and asked a resident which place the number belonged to. With the answer I knocked on the door and the lady answered but she had a guy there. She said "Yeah, now's probably not the best time. Come back later" and gave me a hug. I couldn't be bothered trying again later.


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Keep safe ! I hear it's hectic out there with the riots and protests going on.
by the time I got to MD there were no longer any riots but thanks for the warning.

wish you were here with us in PR :)


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Thank you for everyone who has taken the time to read my posts and write a comment afterwards. I have read them all but will respond tomorrow. :) In the meantime here's my latest FR:

OMG WOW.

Today I approached 24 different girls during the daytime (and recorded it all). This is 200% more than what I usually do during a standard, good day.

Never before in my life have I felt so AMAZINGLY AMAZING. I am on top of Mount Everest screaming on top of my lunges "FUCK YEA!!!" The andrenaline rush is overwhelming and I feel a high that cannot be described in words - it can only be felt. For the first time in forever, I finally feel ALIVE. My veins are popping with edorphine overload. There is no feeling like this but I can imagine this is how popping ecstasy pills must feel like. Today may have just been the best day of my life.

I don't do pickup for the sex, I do it for the thrills.

There's two different ways to live life: to survive or to thrive. Unfortunately my default is to just get by in life settling for "just making it" - happy with medicority and being "good enough".

But today's adventure has changed my prespective on life: if you're not pushing yourself to the absolute limit, then you are not really living but you are settling for a cheap substitute of what it means to be alive. If you want to taste what real living is about then you have to live on the edge. Every day you have to take things to a higher level, seeking to improve everything you do - to the MAX AND BEYOND!! Go where you have never gone before and dare yourself to do adventures that are scare you.

This was really hard for me to do because I was stuck in the quicksand of laziness with 99.99% of my head being bullshit excuses of why I can't follow my dream and passion.

I have been living a lie all my life. Rationalizing to myself "I am doing everything I can to improve" when in reality, I've been only doing 10% of what I could be doing. And it took an event such as today to show me what I could REALLY be accomplishing. The limits are only the ones that exist in your mind.

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1. In daygame, the girl is often in a rush to go somewhere so you have to work your magic fast and efficiently.

2. All negs have to be throw and go (say the neg but instantly say something else afterwards to distract her) because otherwise the girl can get offended and backfire a diss back - causing her to self-sabotage her attraction for you.

3. As soon as you open the girl, you must pay very close attention to her reaction in order to slot her in the right category. If she is highly social then you have to escalate the vibe fast and say crazy things to keep her entertained, otherwise she will leave from boredom and from not having recieved any value.

If she is NOT social and feels intimidated or awkward then you have to take things slowly - as well as explain your intentions. Going too fast with a girl like that will scare the cat away and she will eject because she's not used to being outside her comfort zone to such an extreme extent.

If she is social and likes you then jump to the qualification phase with "What makes you stand out of all the other girls?"(no point, in overdosing in attraction).

If she is social but is cold and emotionally unaffected then you have to neg and tease her to spike up attraction. Nice guy conversation will lead you nowhere.

Getting attacked by mall security for approaching girls...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-LdTbPCh9E
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The time now is 349AM and every ounce of my body is telling me to go to sleep but instead I'm going to write a field report while the experience is fresh in my mind - here in my room in utter complete darkness in the hopes of gaining a lesson or two. The adventure is over for the most part because today I will be flying back home.

Was it worth? I don't even know but I'll know if the trip is worth it or not later on. I'm sad right now because I am really struggling as to whether or not I'm going to continue to do pickup. The problem with pickup is that I can't help but feel that it's against G-d's will. G-d wants me to get married and have kids, not flirt and attempt to get sexual with other females. This causes incredible sadness within me because what else do I have in life besides pickup? If I quit now then the approx. 3 years that I've spent in the game would have been for nothing. My only consolation is that I will continue to write about pickup and do pickup for research purposes - and I can't imagine G-d being against that. This inner struggle within me is real.

The other struggle that I am facing is my depression - which saps my strength and energy. When you're sad, it's like walking around with a heavy load at all times. Everything you do is SLOWER. I need to find some way to boost my spirits. One things that saddens me is the amount of work that I'll have to put into college and the fact that I am still struggling with the same challenges that I've been struggling for years.

Anyways, this night concludes my PR adventures. And my biggest regret of all is not pushing myself hard enough to the limit like I could have. One thing I learned, is to take life one day at a time, enjoy it to the fullest and push yourself as hard as you can as far as you can. One thing that I'm happy about is that I've done a total of 3 number closes my entire trip with Luis Ramos. This is more number closes that I've done from cold approach street pickup then I've ever done in my entire life - and it really pushed my perception of what is possible and what isn't possible.

I have to go to sleep now but I'm going to end with this: I really hope that I stop being such a fuckin little boy wimp who is scared of the world and just wants to hide under his covers crying for mommy. I need to grow up and become a warrior who is fearless, daring and slays whatever obstacles come his way. When will I find my courage? How long will it be until I turn into a Spartan?

xx

Of all the approaches that I've done: I'd say the most interesting one was were I was almost kicked out of a store because I was falsely accused of sexually harassing the girl:
P.S. I got a lot of hate comments coming from this video of which I deleted them all.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txhZWwJEvPA

I will write about the lessons learned about this tomorrow.

My goal for tomorrow is to not be a fuckin little baby and do as many sets as I can at the Airport. NO LIMITS!!!


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Hey Cupid....this is a suggestion, and I really hope you listen to it and think on what I'm saying.

Stop listing these lesson and stop giving tips

Now, I've watched alot of your videos, and I'm always rooting for you. In some of the more recent videos yo actually seem calmer in the beginning of the approach so that's good. But in terms of "success," I haven't seen anything besides that set with Da that looked successful. Same for your friend. And by successful I mean the girl appeared interested. If you can point to a video where the girl looked interested in you or your friend, I'll watch and admit it was so if true. But for now, not alot of, if any, success.

Don't get me wrong, I admire your balls and persistence. I couldnt do what you do consistently to learn pickup. I had it easier. If I had gone through 50 of your approaches I'd have quit. So your dedication, although I dont agree with it, is admirable to me. But I'm just being honest to help you...there arent signs of interest in any of your videos.

I say this, because I dont know how you can give lessons or think you've learned something, when you dont have consistent success to validate that. I dont believe that failure can teach you what you SHOULD do. If you had some videos of success, I can see where your reference points are coming from, but I dont see any of that. I just see regurgitated pickup advice which you havent implemented and PROVEN they get success. This is exactly how bad information is recirculated in the community; something sounds good, guys spread it. You hamper your own learning when your lessons are based on someone's elses words or an unproven thesis.

For eg, I'm a shitty cook. But I like potstickers. So this year on 2 occasions I bought some potstickers to cook. The first time I burned all of them. The second time I reduced the time I cooked them, but still burnt them. So I failed at making potstickers. I COULD surmise that the right way to cook them would be to cook them for 5 mins instead of 7, as I did, but the truth is, I dont have success to back that up. I wouldnt go online and tell guys HOW TO COOK POTSTICKERS because I havent cooked them properly CONSISTENTLY myself. This is how your tips are, most of them could be wrong, and the more you follow shit that you havent proven yourself, the less real success you'll get.

Advice can sound good, but you gotta test it. Heck, even my advice, if it sounds good doesnt matter. Implement, see if it works. If it doesnt work consistently, drop it. Truth is, you can only say advice is good if it has WORKED for you. You're going around with these lessons you've learned but they arent really learned. You just think they're fact because they sound good. Dont worry abt being a guru, worry abt finding what works. Any lesson you give, should be backed by success, not failure.So change things up. Once you are not getting success from something, drop it and change it.

PS....What you did wrong in BEST Buy was to approach an underage girl with her mom. Common sense. See, that's what I mean. You have all the theory but miss the shit that really applies to your situation. Young looking chick.....mom...store...the body language between them...she was a kid, man.
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The good news is that if you open a group of girls successfully, onlookers will assume that you are old friends. However, sometimes the girl that you attempt to open is very anti-social, easily intimidated and even hostile. If you sense this, you must leave immediately because no matter how friendly you are - it may be close to impossible to fix the situation. A single complaint to security can get you "Do not approach in this store again or we will have to ban you."
Has this ever happened for you? Have you ever approached a group, opened successfully and onlookers think you're old friends? I havent seen this in your videos. So why spread untested theory? Please, just take a step back with the theory and tips, and access what is working for you, and what is not.


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Wow.

The approach above was so horribly cringe worthy that it made ME feel uncomfortable. It was one of the most uncalibrated approaches I've EVER seen. Your approach was literally a text book case of not understanding calibration.

PLEASE, please please please, read up on calibration. The next time you do approach, please take external factors into consideration rather than just spitting lines. The girl was probably underaged, with her MOTHER, and the first thing that comes into your mind to tell her is "you look so fucking cute". You then ask about NIGHTCLUBS and where she goes while the girl and her mother has an extremely uncomfortable look on their faces.

Your conversation might work in certain environments with the RIGHT people but approaching a young girl and her mother with that dialogue, in the middle of BEST FUCKING BUY, will be SURE to get you in serious trouble.

Please, please, please please, learn to read body language. Learn to assess the situation of the set. Learn w to ADAPT the material for each specific set. Select your sets CAREFULLY and choose your language WISELY. READ body language and adapt appropriately. Please please please dude, for your OWN safety and security, do not EVER do anything like this again.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:54 pm 
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Hey Cupid....this is a suggestion, and I really hope you listen to it and think on what I'm saying.

Stop listing these lesson and stop giving tips

Now, I've watched alot of your videos, and I'm always rooting for you. In some of the more recent videos yo actually seem calmer in the beginning of the approach so that's good. But in terms of "success," I haven't seen anything besides that set with Da that looked successful. Same for your friend. And by successful I mean the girl appeared interested. If you can point to a video where the girl looked interested in you or your friend, I'll watch and admit it was so if true. But for now, not alot of, if any, success.

Don't get me wrong, I admire your balls and persistence. I couldnt do what you do consistently to learn pickup. I had it easier. If I had gone through 50 of your approaches I'd have quit. So your dedication, although I dont agree with it, is admirable to me. But I'm just being honest to help you...there arent signs of interest in any of your videos.

I say this, because I dont know how you can give lessons or think you've learned something, when you dont have consistent success to validate that. I dont believe that failure can teach you what you SHOULD do. If you had some videos of success, I can see where your reference points are coming from, but I dont see any of that. I just see regurgitated pickup advice which you havent implemented and PROVEN they get success. This is exactly how bad information is recirculated in the community; something sounds good, guys spread it. You hamper your own learning when your lessons are based on someone's elses words or an unproven thesis.

For eg, I'm a shitty cook. But I like potstickers. So this year on 2 occasions I bought some potstickers to cook. The first time I burned all of them. The second time I reduced the time I cooked them, but still burnt them. So I failed at making potstickers. I COULD surmise that the right way to cook them would be to cook them for 5 mins instead of 7, as I did, but the truth is, I dont have success to back that up. I wouldnt go online and tell guys HOW TO COOK POTSTICKERS because I havent cooked them properly CONSISTENTLY myself. This is how your tips are, most of them could be wrong, and the more you follow shit that you havent proven yourself, the less real success you'll get.

Advice can sound good, but you gotta test it. Heck, even my advice, if it sounds good doesnt matter. Implement, see if it works. If it doesnt work consistently, drop it. Truth is, you can only say advice is good if it has WORKED for you. You're going around with these lessons you've learned but they arent really learned. You just think they're fact because they sound good. Dont worry abt being a guru, worry abt finding what works. Any lesson you give, should be backed by success, not failure.So change things up. Once you are not getting success from something, drop it and change it.

PS....What you did wrong in BEST Buy was to approach an underage girl with her mom. Common sense. See, that's what I mean. You have all the theory but miss the shit that really applies to your situation. Young looking chick.....mom...store...the body language between them...she was a kid, man.
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The good news is that if you open a group of girls successfully, onlookers will assume that you are old friends. However, sometimes the girl that you attempt to open is very anti-social, easily intimidated and even hostile. If you sense this, you must leave immediately because no matter how friendly you are - it may be close to impossible to fix the situation. A single complaint to security can get you "Do not approach in this store again or we will have to ban you."
Has this ever happened for you? Have you ever approached a group, opened successfully and onlookers think you're old friends? I havent seen this in your videos. So why spread untested theory? Please, just take a step back with the theory and tips, and access what is working for you, and what is not.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:30 am 
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Hey Cupid, I appreciate the response. However, you didnt respond to anything I wrote, and actually said things that I said I WASNT saying.

I never said not to approach girls with their mom...I said the girl was underage.

Never said to do 50 approaches a day, in fact I said I dont advocate that.

As to other hobbies, true, if you want to get great at something dedicate yourself to it. However, pickup is a different beast. Girls dont want a guy who all he does is talk to girls. Yes, there are some girls who do, but most dont. Being pickup focused is actually counter productive to attracting women.

I think I get it now. You're a young guy. I once saw a video with Sinn where he says guys under 21 should not be doing pickup as they have not built up normal life experiences yet. Making PU the center of your life is not going to end well, and for someone who already is depressed and suicidal, it will push you to the end. Make friends, join groups, get some hobbies. Learn to be a normal guy first. You're a socially awkward guy. And you're trying to go from weird guy to player. Get to normal first. Make some friends. Play a sport. Dont focus on number closing, get used to having conversations where the person feels comfortable with you. Pickup is tough, especially for a guy in your situation. You need to get support systems, ie friends, career, hobbies, family so when shit hits you have people/things to lean on. Just a thought. I know you'll plow past my advice and continue doing this the way you have been.


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