Here's my night...

When I first got there, I sat there and think superiorly like what have they done to impress me? Why should I even be trying to impress these girls in the
first place?

I look at them with contempt when I first get there and when I first see them. I hate that I have to spend my whole life trying to impress them
and when I look closely, they are a bunch of drunks with nothing intelligent to say. I don't think that coming up with some stupid opener is
even the point. I think it is a clash of personalities.

When one of them put their hand in front of my nose, it bothered me. I don't think as highly of them as all the other guys seem to.

Even when what they're saying isn't entirely dumb, it becomes dumb after about 10 seconds. I don't think their brains are as capable as a male
brain. Is this what it is supposed to be like?

After a while, I felt like displaying this disinterest was drawing some of them towards me. I think some of them gave me some "proximity" and an
invitation to approach, but I didn't say anything. I wouldn't have known what to say even if I wanted to, which I didn't really care to.

Also, this makes me wonder about the thing about how displaying disinterest is a good thing, but in that case, even going out in the first place
shows some interest. Otherwise, you would just be sitting at home.

It also made me think about the post the guy made about "disqualification" where you just give short answers or don't tell them the right answer.
This shows disinterst and shows that you think you have higher value than them (which I do for a million reasons).

After a while, I grew completely unimpressed with every girl there (even the hot ones) and hated the fact that they have enough other guys telling
them that they are worth so much that they never realize that they might not be.

At one point, I had the attitude of "what girl in here even deserves to have my balls in her mouth," and I feel like it comes across. And it made me
think about that guy Steve P. from the books who had girls paying him to give him head.

Yet at the same time, I am still shy. And to be honest, even if the hottest girl in the world were sitting across from me with her legs spread, licking
her lips and doing a "come hither" with her finger, I still probably would not know what to say to her.

It also stuck out to me that I should join a martial arts class or a self-defense class so that I know I would never be intimidated by another guy. Not
that I probably would be any way, but just in case shit hits the fan. It also struck me how important it is to cross the "social hook point" with other
guys and how easy that actually is. That makes girls like you more when they see you can socialize with other guys.

I noticed that I am no more or less shy around an ugly girl than a hot girl. The hotness doesn't affect me that much. At one point, I was walking through
a small space and this girl (hot), I think stuck her butt out just to see if I would avoid it or walk into it. I walked into it and our butts touched.
That felt good. I am not afraid to touch a hot girls butt.

I also got to thinking about "dynamic social homeostasis" and thinking "why would these girls want to know me?" How would I add to their "survival?"
What could I offer them?

I also noticed that I have to be less introverted. I sat there most of the time writing notes on my phone that I knew I would type when I got back home.

No matter how cool or disinterested I can act at times, every now and then, I just look at an ass in tight shorts and know that I need/want that.

Also, I go out alone. Maybe it would be easier if I found a wing.

I didn't brag about money the whole time. I didn't even bring it up until some guy asked me what I do.

I wanted to leave after 30 minutes but I managed to stay for a few hours. I don't think I really talked to anyone the whole time other than some very
surface conversation. And I didn't say a single word to a single girl the whole time I was there. But a lot of communication is non-verbal.

I also noticed the importance of dominant body language. Rather than sitting on a barstool, I sat high on the ledge that is on the outside of the bar. I
sat on high ground.

I noticed other guys getting kino from hot girls (touching their chest or whatever) and thought how good that would feel and how much I want it. I wonder
if they were going to have sex later and if that guy would be as good as I would be.

I also noticed that the only openers that I can do with ease are functional openers when I actually want to know something. For example, one time I thought
I lost my phone, so I was going to ask someone to call it. It wouldn't matter if it was male or female.

I also noticed that I have little experience with the "human" side of girls. For example, if I see a girl puking, that is almost completely foreign to
me.

I am still shy. There is no denying it. I want to and wish I could and knew how to get over it. Yet, I have a lot of anger underneath it.

All in all, it may have seemed uneventful on the surface, but in my head, I think a lot may have changed and I may have learned a lot... even though I didn't talk to a single girl the whole time...

I was able to look a few in the eye for a few seconds here and there...

Who said you should be trying to impress them? I don't try to impress girls. The rule I try to follow is to say what I want and not care what they think.

What are you looking for? If it's just a one night stand who cares too much about the personality? I know a dumb blonde would suit me just fine for a one night stand.

Again, what are you looking for? There are intelligent women out there if that's what you want.
What's the point of even going out then? If you want to get laid you have to talk to them, there's no way around that. What you say to them is all up to you. If they turn you on you can tell them that they turn you on. You can tell them what about them turns you on. Who cares what they think?
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with showing interest. Acting disinterested when you're not is dishonest.

Worth what? What are we talking about? If a girl is good looking then she is good looking. How does this correlate to value or worth?
So what? Your attitude didn't get you laid, did it? To put it bluntly this is just mind masturbation.
Again, say what you want. It's not that hard.
You're caring what they think. You don't need to socialize with other guys if you don't care what they think.
This is good. I believe I treat all women the same. Hot ones I might put a bit more effort into trying to pick up but fundamentally I don't change the way I go about things with them or anything. Some guys lose their minds with hot girls for some reason.
You're thinking too much. Don't worry about what the girls what. Only worry about what you want.
Heh, I write notes on my phone as well. I feel like it can be a bad habit.
That's good! Look all you like and let them catch you looking! Screw appearing disinterested. Girls like a man who know what he wants.
Maybe. I go out alone too but I manage to do approaches and have varying degrees of success.
Well, you can have it. First step would be to get out of your head and get yapping a bit to some hotties!

What sort of anger? Why are you angry?
Well, going out is better than not going out. At some point you have to do something though.
That's something at least.

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From what I've gathered I think you have the potential to be quite a good PUA. You've just got to work out what you want and go for it. The fact you're not putting women up on a pedestal helps immensely but you can't go the other way and put them down in the sewers either. So, sort out your inner game a bit and next time you go out you might actually start doing some shit!

Good luck.

Thanks for responding. I will definitely be posting field reports now that I know people respond to them.

I guess you have to impress them at some point. Otherwise, why would they want to be with you?

I don't really know what I'm looking for. I don't want to have any kids right now, so.... I don't know.

A one night stand with some stupid fat girl doesn't appeal to me, although I probably would take it at
this point.

I'm not sure if I would prefer an intelligent girl or a hot one. Probably hot.

Yea I wish I knew what to say. I feel so stupid. I have read all the books in the world. I know all the
different types of openers. Still don't know what to say. What is wrong with me? I wish I knew what to
say and I am past the point of using alcohol to relieve my anxiety.

I find that it is important to socialize with other guys just to show that you are social and not scary.
Since I am going out by myself, I find it necessary to convince them that I'm not a serial killer and
that I can actually socialize normally and be normal and not some antisocial douchebag. I don't socialize
TOO much with them, and it actually bothers me when other guys talk to me too much, but you need to cross
the "social hook point" and not be seen as an outsider or antisocial.

Angry I guess that I have to impress them in the first place when I feel like I have a lot more to offer than
they do, especially in terms of life experience. Angry in a sadistic sense. Like, I would have no problem
tying a girl up.

Yes, I do have to do SOMETHING... but I feel that I learn really fast.

I wish I knew how to start talking to them. Like today, two girls sat down next to me (possible proximity),
and one of them lit up a cigarette and I put my shirt over my mouth like it was making me throw up. Maybe
I should have said something to them. I still have no idea what to say. No fucking clue.

I have read all the books in the world. I know all the types of openers. I can explain Einstein's Theory of
Relativity to 5th grader. I will build a billion dollar real estate business. But I still have not the
first clue what to say to girls. Maybe.... "hi."

And then I look at their loser ass pussy boyfriend and know I'm better than him.

The only types of openers I can do are functional openers, when there is really something I want to know, like
if I lost my phone and want someone to call it, or if I want to bum a cigarette from someone. (but I quit).

I have a feeling I just need to do a crash and burn night.

Hmm, I would forget about the word "impress". It's too strong.

The first thing you have to do is make them feel comfortable being around with you. That's the primary thing. If they're not comfortable being around you they will not feel attracted to you. Comfort leads to attraction.

Secondly, I have a theory that attraction builds attraction. If you find a girl attractive, and she likes the fact that you find her attractive, then there can be a good chance that she will find you attractive in return. Like I said before, women like men who know what they want. If you express to a woman that you want her then I think that alone can get the ball rolling to her feeling attracted to you - as long as she's comfortable that is.

It's not about trying to impress them. It's you finding a woman who likes you for "you". Women want someone they can trust and have a good time with. Once they detect that you're full of shit because you were merely trying to impress them then it's pretty much all over red rover.

So much emphasis is put into worth and value in the pick up community and I think it's a load of crap. For instance, you don't want a gold digger who will use you for your money so why brag about your financial status as a way of demonstrating value?

Value means all sorts of things to different people. What one woman may like about you another may not. So why try to define things in value?

You shouldn't be angry that you need to impress women because you don't need to impress them. All you need to do is make them feel comfortable and earn their respect. And respect is a two way street, so if you don't respect the woman you're with move on to the next one. Women respect a man who respects himself. So, to sum up, "respect" for yourself is about the only value you need to demonstrate and "impress" them with.
That would be a start. Or you could say "I don't know what to say". I've said that. A couple of weeks ago I opened with "I hope I don't go to a brothel tonight".

You can open with anything within reason. You just have to open. Getting the conversation going, making the woman feel comfortable, and escalating sexually is where you need to put the real effort in.

Talk about financial status to show off intelligence and that I'm more successful than these other guys in suits.

Yea, one time when I was drunk, I walked up to a 2 set sitting in barstools and said...

Me: Can I sit there?
Her: In my chair?
Me: It's not really YOUR chair, it belongs to the bar.... haven't you ever heard of sharing?
Her: ......................
Me: (couldn't think of anything to continue so I walked off)

But I noticed she had really cute braces in that time I talked to her....

Sucks that I had to be drunk to say that. And another time when I was drunk I walked up to a beautiful Spanish woman and said "you are the most beautiful......"

And she stopped me right there and introduced me to everyone she knew.....

And that's why some people's only strategy to pick up is to get drunk.

I tend to have one or two drinks when I go out nowadays. Sometimes I don't like it though as it can actually make me feel tired and demotivated to do anything. I've never been fully drunk though and have no idea how I would act being drunk.

The key thing when you're drunk is that you don't care what others think. If you can incorporate that attitude into when you're sober as well then you will start getting somewhere.

Yup......

Not really sure where to start here...

First off, you need to change your mindset. Totally. Stop looking at the negative sides of women. You don't even KNOW these women but yet you're making a whole load of judgement. Stop it. These people lead complex lives, most of them do GOOD, and you have done nothing to DESERVE a woman's affection if you sit down at the bar and stare for the whole evening.

Secondly, you said you ready "all the books"? You are exaggerating to the extreme. Look up on the forum or whatever books you allegedly read, and find at least 20 openers used. Write them down IN THIS THREAD. Start thinking about which ones fit you best and I will personally help to choose.

I will answer this right now, but answer it better in a few days..... all the openers in the book are like "hey do you think it's cheating if a girl makes out with another girl?".... okay maybe I should just use that....

openers I used tonight.... "hey can I bum a cigarette?.... and then ask them what they do and tell them I'm about to have a book published on amazon.... and ask them if they're religious (because that's what the book is about).....

And, you're right... I have done nothing to deserve any of these girls.... I agree with you.... if I did, I would have one..... no argument.... nature works itself out that way....

20 openers bro. Then when you're finished come up with a few of your own

Bumming a cigarette is NOT a good opener by the way. I'd suggest you come up with some TEMPLATE ideas that you can adapt to suit the specific situation. Your openers should be funny/interesting and you need to do your best to get into a good, fun mood when delivering.

I did better in today's field report from the mall if you want to check that out...

Btw... what do you think of my party boat idea?

I think you should post your openers before I respond.

But let's make it even easier. Post 5 of the best openers you've read, then come up with 5 openers of your own.

I'm waiting for those openers.

I did alot in my field report from the mall today... they were mostly situational and on the spot....

what did you think about those?