It seems that all over the internet there are a barrage of discussion forums full of men who are having problems approaching, meeting, picking up, dating and having sex with women. In these forums, there is an endless conveyor belt of men who keep repeating the same problems over and over again. Many of these men have become bitter and jaded about women.

THE FIRST MISTAKE THESE MEN MAKE

As a result of their failure with women, these men turn to the PUA community and learn lots of techniques, tactics, tricks and gimmicks to pick up women, believing this advice will solve all their problems with women.
But after several months or years trying out all these techniques and tactics, they are still no further forward with women. They then keep searching for more 'magic pill' advice to try and solve their problems with women, endlessly buying new ebooks and reading new forum and blog posts in the hope they'll find that ONE piece of information that will turn them into men who can pick up any woman they want. The never ending cycle continues.

The problem with these techniques and tactics is that they are based on games and manipulation. They are also INDIRECT.

FORGET 'GAME'. REAL SUCCESS WITH WOMEN STARTS WITH BEING DIRECT & REAL

You cannot have any real or lasting success with women if you base your approaches on games, manipulation, tactics and techniques.

You need to forget about 'game' and instead focus on being 100% real with women. Only then can you have quality relationships and sex with women.

Guys believe that since women play games and manipulate men, that we should do the same to them. But what they fail to realise is that the more games you play with women, the more games women will play with you. The more you try to manipulate women, the more they will try to manipulate you. It becomes a vicious cycle. That is why games and manipulation NEVER work.

When you are 100% real and honest with women, you get rid of the manipulative and dishonest women, and you draw closer to you the honest and decent women. You also empower women in general to be real and openly honest with you instead of playing games. Honesty is contagious and refreshing to women.

A RELATIONSHIP, LIKE A BUILDING, NEEDS THE CORRECT FOUNDATIONS IN ORDER TO STAND UP

In order for a building to stand up, it must be built on strong foundations. The same applies to relationships - they need to have solid foundations if they are to work, and these foundations are honesty, trust, respect, clear communication, sexual chemistry and compatibility. No exceptions. It doesn't matter whether a relationships is short-term, mid-term, long-term, monogamous, non-monogamous/open, or whether it's serious or casual, you still need these same foundations if it is to be successful.

The problem with the people posting on forums such as this is that you try to base your relationships with women on games, manipulation, tactics and techniques. As a a result, your relationships fail. Then you come back here and learn yet more tactics and techniques, then you fail yet again, never breaking the cycle.
You need to leave 'game' behind' and start applying the correct foundations if you are to have real success with women.

THE TRUTH: INDIRECT APPROACHES DON'T WORK

You won't like me for saying this, but here's the real truth. Indirect approaches DO NOT WORK. They only thing they work for is having friendly, pleasant, polite conversations with women, but they DON'T work for turning a woman into lover, since indirect establishes a platonic dynamic between you and a woman.

If you want to be seen in a romantic/sexual light by women, then you need to be Direct with them right from the start, since Direct establishes a sexual dynamic between you and a woman.

WHAT DIRECT IS

Direct is all about being 100% real and honest with women, without any games or manipulation, and without any tactics or techniques. It's about being honest about who you are and what you want from them.

It's about approaching women and letting them know right from the start that you think they're attractive, and making it clear that'd you'd like to hook up with them romantically/sexually. In doing so, you establish a sexual and not platonic dynamic right from the start between you and the girl.

It's about always being an authentic man, and Direct applies throughout the entire relationship and not merely at the beginning.

Advanced Direct also involves using erotic/sexual language with women to get them turned on. A Direct guy NEVER hides his sexual side or sexual intentions around women.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME 'DIRECT GAME' ADVICE YOU MAY HAVE READ ON SOME PUA SITE

Before you think 'Oh, I've read about direct approaches before, so I know what this is', think again. There are many so called 'PUA gurus' who think they are teaching Direct. But the truth is, they are not true Direct.
True Direct is NOT a tactic or a technique, and if you try to use it as such it will fail. True Direct is about 100% real and authentic. The problem with these 'dating gurus' who are teaching Direct is that they are teaching guys to use Direct as technique or tactic, as if it's just another tool in their bag of seduction tricks. They refer to Direct as 'Direct game'. But it won't work that way. Direct has to be about who you are and how you live your life, i.e. you must be real and authentic in all areas of your life. You can't use Direct as another 'seduction trick'.

This is the reason why the term 'Direct game' is an oxymoron - you cannot be Direct whilst also playing games, since Direct means playing no games at all.

DIRECT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT & EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET WHAT YOU WANT FROM WOMEN

When it comes to meeting women, whoever you are your goal is to date and fuck women without wasting time, money or energy in doing so.

And the fact is, the Direct approach is the ONLY way to achieve this. Being indirect and using games and manipulation isn't efficient or effective at all.

ALMOST ALL PROBLEMS IN DATING & RELATIONSHIPS CAN BE SOLVED BY BEING DIRECT

After analyzing the most common problems that men seem to keep having in dating and relationships all over the world, it is clear that most if not all of these common problems can be solved by being Direct. I have written articles about this before, but I will happily explain why virtually any problem in dating and relationships can be solved by Direct communication.

HOW TO GET STARTED MEETING WOMEN TODAY WITH THE DIRECT APPROACH

Fortunately, I have a website and blog dedicated to the Direct approach, and have written a FREE ebook on the Direct approach which you can download on my site. It goes into a lot more detail about what Direct is, why it is the only way to achieve real success with women, and how you can go out and meet women today by being Direct.

I also have 2 years worth of blog posts on this subject which you will find very useful too. Please visit bedirectwithwomen (dot) com.

If you have any questions related to the Direct approach, please reply here or email me via my site.

Add value to the forum, not just copy and paste shit from your blog

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p.s. I was indirect on my ex girlfriend so this statement is false. Direct is more efficient, I am sure you agree but to say indirect doesn't work is just false.

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This post does add value to the forum.

Anything can work once in a while, but you would never have consistent success with women by being indirect.

Being indirect can work consistently if that's congruent with your personality. Being direct can work consistently for the same reason. This whole "you have to do things the way I do it" notion ruins a lot of guys self esteem when it doesn't work for them. I'm more of a direct person and I am confident in my success with women, but there are some guys that are indirect that will humble me in a second.

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Derp, It's a copy and paste mate with the .com link at the end to your website,

Get involved in the discussions, that would be adding value.

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So? What difference does that make? If you're not going to comment on the topic of this thread, don't reply.

Makes a lot of difference

Imagine some dude coming into your social circle in a bar and starts to give you a business card?

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Starts to give you a business card? So he makes a start but doesn't quite extend his arm far enough to fully give you this card?

Anyway, so what if someone did give you a business card? Most of the time they would because they felt their business would benefit you in some way. This is a forum for learning to talk to and attract women. It just happens to be named after a redundant and quite frankly, manipulative and immoral way of getting into their pants and ultimately involves a method that keeps most boys from becoming men.

Yeah it would be one of those business cards where you throw it away as soon as that person leaves. Now if you stuck around and become apart of the "social circle" get involved and THEN perhaps add your salsa pitch, then there is a different dynamic

Manipulative huh ? Perhaps you're right, is a bit evolved from the old days thought but And yet you come here to get traffic of manipulative people to your website

You're not here for the right reasons. I'm pretty confident you won't be posting around continuing to "add value" for long.

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You think we care if we're here for long? If we're banned it'll be for two reasons:

1) A man child reports our post because it shatters their previous perceptions.

2) A 'guru' becomes threatened because actually utilising this makes their overpriced products redundant.

This isn't my website but I can vouch for what it has to say. The only reason you are chiding him (and me) is because we don't go along with what you have to say. If we'd come here promoting or vouching for another indirect product which conformed to your current perceptions, you wouldn't give a shit. However if we even reach one person who is willing to try something new, then its worth it.

Also, are you saying its a good thing to be manipulative? Manipulation implies underhand means of getting what you want, and just as our philosophy is the same, we have been upfront in our motivation and purpose. Your first paragraph also contradicts this notion as it implies we're forcing our ideals upon you yet using underhand techniques. That doesn't make logical sense. Is this straightforward and forceful or manipulative.

Also, 'evolve'? How can being straightforward evolve? You're either telling the truth or you're not.

"We"? How can you be speaking for the OP?

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Also this site openly states manipulation. The banner at the top uses the word 'Trick'. Now I don't know about you but I don't want to trick girls into my bed - seems quite predatory to me. If I spiked a girl's drink or made her drunk to fuck her, that would also be a trick. It is also legally deemed as rape. So in a way if you're 'tricking' women into bed you're basically having sex with her without her real consent... May not be rape per se but all the same, its not a million miles from it either when you put it in that context.

One of the pitfalls of indirect is that it is difficult to tell which women are attracted to you romantically/sexually vs which ones are not. But when you're Direct, it's easy to tell which women are attracted to you vs the ones who aren't.

If a guy wants an efficient way to pull women consistently, he's going to have a hard time doing so if he's indirect. Direct is a far better 'sorting mechanism' in that it weeds out the ones who aren't interested quicker and attracts the ones who are quicker.
The thing you fail to understand is that Direct means being your true self. Direct is not a routine or a script that you memorise. I'm not saying that people should 'do things the way I do them'. What I'm saying is be Direct, but don't copy my words. Copy the PRINCIPLE, i.e. be direct, but say the words in your own way.