Or instance, does it help seduction and connection to girls when they tell you about deep stuff in their lives like parents divorces, bad pay situations, etc?

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YES!!!! OF COURSE!!!

But you have to be sure to continually be flirtatious, fun, and make sure to create the chemistry of being more than friends.

Being interested in a girl, her life and about her is the best way to game, most would disagree and say that this is how you get put into the just friends category, but the reason why this happens most is because they don't create that attraction by flirting, and being confident which is something that needs to be there from the start and all the way through till the end of time and back. They become a kiss up and don't even joke around in fear of hurting her wittle feelings. Just pick your timing good because you don't want to make jokes about her horrible incidents of life.

DON'T BE THAT GUY. Be there for her, but also be there for her more than just a friend, be there as a potential lover AND friend....listen and be there for her while gaming, just don't be too forceful, so be easygoing.

If you need tips in flirting techniques I'm your man, but I require detailed situations for the questions so that way I have more to work with.

Good luck and pm me if you need help. Be sweet, but be flirtatious.

It's about how and why you do it.

Does she smile with you? does she laugh? does she have a great time? do you tease the fuck out of her?
If the answer to those questions is yes, then it's perfectly fine to have deep conversations too.

The reason most guys fuck up is because deep conversations are less risky. Flirting implies the possibility of rejection. So does being sexual and even humorous at times.
On the other hand offering a shoulder to cry on is "safe" by comparison, so your typical guy will do that instead. And only that. And eventually he becomes an emotional tampon.

Does this make sense to you OP? too much of anything can prove unhealthy. Be overly-sexual and you're a "creep". Be overly-funny and you're a clown. Be overly-nice and you're a tool.

It's all about calibration and offering a spectrum of multiple emotional sparks.

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I agree, but I do feel like if you have the right techniques to flirting of what I call stealth-techniques you have a slim to none possibility of being rejected because after all you're not asking her out. You are making conversation, but then again this takes practice and skills that only a handful really know.

So if she does "reject" she'll look like a crazy person when she doesn't really know what you mean by your implies. And also he should be doing this from the start, right from the very first interactions or if he has just learned of this, TRY evolving it slowly at snail-speed.

Most men will either come on too strong like you said, but if you do it RIGHT and read the signs you'll know how strong to come on and when to slow down or back off. You need to know the techniques of flirting and how to in that very specific situation.

And as we both said to OP...don't just be a shoulder to cry on, be something more in her eyes.

Good advice though overall.

Ok so the key i got out of both your posts is that it is good to get deep, really good as long as you can keep the sexual tension up too?

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Why are you only examples of "deep" something connected to negativity? bad pay days, divorce?

Is there no positive examples of deep conversation?

Anything you speak with a woman about is something you will directly connect to you. Whether deep or light. If you want to be connected to bad pay days and divorce, then by all means have a field day. Women have a more difficult time then us drawing the laws between people and emotions. Theres less objectivity. Everything will be bunched in to one pot.

Deep conversations are great sometime, however you want to take the woman on a roller coaster. You don't just want to be "Deep guy", be multi faceted. Be light, be deep, be funny, etc.etc.

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Hey Eddie, what do you mean by emotional roaller coaster? My initial though would be mabye something like a hard time in her past, but start talking about her aspirations, and so on? Am i kind of on point here or off?

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What about the greatest day of her life? What about the best gift she's ever gotten? Her first time getting drunk? The wildest party she's ever attended? The first thing she does on a day off? " Three things that happened to her this week? Her first love?

I can go on and on man. A positive mind has no trouble creating positive emotions to identify with.

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This is pretty spot on what I've been doing subconsciously these past few times, and in fact a reason why I failed recently on a date. Damn.