tl;dr any dating advice for 'traditional girls'

Hey guys, just managed to secure my first date for a LONG fucking time. So I guess a pat on the back is in order.

Literally, the last 'date' I went on was two years ago, and I can't say that 'wine-and-dine-your-girl' type of dating fits into my overall style! This girl is Eastern European and I opened her a month ago with a pretty direct cold approach. I managed to get her number but it's been pretty damn hard to get any responses from her. Every week or so, I would send maybe two texts and she would reply after a couple of days with something like,

"oh yes, the weather is lovely today. I went for the most beautiful stroll around the walk with my dog and it was most sumptuous."

She is so typically middle class and totally non-responsive to any PUA antics I try, so I resorted to the same sort of generic,

"oh me too, I love mountain strolling on a hot summer's day,"

type of conversation back. I also sent a second text when she didn't respond for a few days as per usual. In this text, I suggested that I could teach her piano, because she said she was a beginner pianist. To be honest, I had given up hope because her replies seemed so unenthusiastic and she didn't reply for a fortnight until today saying that that would be a good idea and we should meet up.

I said we should go for a coffee first, because I'm getting this whole traditionalist dating vibe from her that guys should be ultra-persistent white knights, bring roses to dates and pay for her meal. I'm not gonna pay for anything lol but I figured it would sound too sexual if I invited her straight round my place for a 'piano lesson'.

In any case she said she was free today (which surprised me because it was a little out of the blue considering her general unresponsiveness) and I suppose I could have capitalised on that offer but I wanted to appear like I was busy or whatever so I suggested next weekend. This might have been a mistake with hinsight it's just that with all the "keep him waiting" games she seemed to be playing it intuitively seemed to me the right decision to make. Maybe I was wrong.

So anyways, I don't feel like doing the whole "court thy fair maiden for 6 months" charade. This would probably sound pretty fucking cynical to her if she was reading this right now! Have any of you fellows got some dating tips? I'm looking to seal the deal and think logistically, getting her from the cafe to my place. I'm just hoping she is not quite so traditional as I have estimated her to be!

You asked for clues on 'traditional' dating... yet you don't plan on paying for anything? You may want to re-evaluate that one...

It's a cafe you're going to? Nothing wrong with buying her a coffee, dude. No point in cock blocking yourself over a 2 dollar beverage.

Agreed, if she seems like a "traditional" kind of girl then be a traditional gentleman. I've heard too that Eastern European girls are quite traditional as they expect the style of old fashioned dating.

There's no such thing as "a girl totally reponsive to any pua antics". Unless you're faking them and they're not part of who you are.

Also, dude, don't cheap out on a coffee. You're being a tool when you're paying for the cab ride, meal, after drinks cab ride again, not when you buy one coffee.

Just go out and have fun with her. If you can. Because frankly if the two of you are not compatible from the start, I don't even know why you'd invest the time and effort just to get a lousy lay.
Give her a shot, see if your read on her is accurate. But by all means don't compromise who you are.
And no, I'm from east Europe and that is not the case at all.

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Yeah I know, it's just a thing I've got. Like how some people won't let their pets on the furniture even though realistically it probably won't do any harm. I guess you could say I'm a feminist: I believe women are equal and therefore they can buy their own coffees

What do you think? Offer to buy one, or just keep silent and see if she says anything?

Lots of girls are like it to be honest though. I had a similar issue about a week ago when I was talking to some girls outside a nightclub and a damned flower lady came over and interjected.

If buying her the coffee goes against your inner beliefs, don't do it.

I don't agree with your belief, I know that despite the way society has evolved, women aren't equal. They're equal on paper, but not according to nature. Just take a look at every other male and female mammal on the planet.

Compromising your beliefs can and will ruin attraction. Its all in the vibe. It might not do it much in this particular case, but its not something you want to make a habit out of.

I'd personally buy the coffee, but if it TRULY goes against your system of beliefs, don't compromise that for the sake of being a gentleman.

I've had girls buy me lunch on the first date, it didn't change a thing.

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Another perfectly valid perspective but to be honest I've had to compromise a lot of my belief system just to get anywhere with girls. I used to dislike approaching girls because women approaching guys doesn't exactly conform to traditional beliefs about gender roles. But I broke free of that mentality and began to approach a LOT. Similarly a lot of women will think that guys should buy them drinks in bars and things just to be able to talk to them. Again, it's just easier to swim with the tide than against it and I've spent a LOT of my life swimming against the tide.

Hey guys, check here to see how the date went...let me know if you have any feedback. Cheers.

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