Hey all,

I'm not a regular poster (well, I go through phases, usually dependant on if I'm single or not.....).

I don't seem to have problems with HB 7's and most 8's. But with 9's/10's, my game doesn't seem to work. I do C&F, and act as I would in any normal pickup, but the 9's and 10's just don't buy it.

Does anyone think that this is something I need to do, or could it be bad luck, or what. I don't tend to get amog'd, but the HB just doesn't get the C&F(so in essence, doesn't get me).

It's not a terrible situation to be in, but something i'd like to try and get over. Anyone with thoughts?

Probably your inner game and your frame.

Practice radiating confidence.

Hmmm....some good points. I have been working alot on my inner game recently (did some charity work in africa) so i'm getting there with that.

The confidence thing though, I wouldn't have thought so. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I would think that I would radiate confidence doing C&F. I could, subconsciously be doing something different though...

Cheers for your thoughts. Gives me something to think about...

I'm talking about your frame.

Stand up straight, keep your head up, that kind of stuffs.

Ah right, not fully up to scratch on the lingo...

I suppose, on thinking about it, i've never really thought about my body language as such. I know it had been mentioned, but i've been relatively successfull, so didn't think about it too much.

Do you reckon that the difference between the 7's and the 10's?

10s are used to AFC begging for their attention so they have a natural bitch shield up, so when she sees you step to the plate, you must show her you are not like everyone else or else you will just be dealt with like an AFC.

thank you. u must act as they are just like any other girl. treat them different with low confidence they'll eat u up.

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Nail on the head...work on your frame and get your confidence up!

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Yeah body language is very important, the way you move, the way you sit, the way you do things, everything.

I got a girls # the other week just by body language and eye contact alone. well and four sentances aswell but she was already in the bag before that. 'hey come here', 'your a real observationist aint ya', 'what your name?' and 'we should go out sometime'.
And that was it, i could have said anything really because of what had gone on before hand.

Cheers guys. I thought I was doing the treat them like everyone else, but am probably still doing something subconsciously that is leading me to not stand out enough.

I exude so much confidence that I often have trouble with 6's and 7's because they disqualify themselves mentally before really even talking to me. When I do talk to them, they get insecure and wonder why I'm talking to them. I should add that it is fun trying to persuade a girl that I'm not a superficial as I look, and turning it into a number close

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Hrm in your C&F are you negging often? Better yet are you negging CORRECTLY? Think about those two questions for a bit and go over your routines my best bet is that you just aren't negging them enough of properly you need negs to lower the bitch shields and take their ego down to your level that's why they are HB9's and HB10's they have BIG ego's LOW self esteems so if you aren't negging enough then their ego stays high and they won't give you the time of day and conversly if you are negging IMPROPERLY then their low self esteem kicks in and they take the negs as insults

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Eekangorf - great post. That could be it. I'll have to look into it a bit more. Sounds like that is the plan though, as my negs don't tend to be that harsh as to lower the bitch shield, as usually my 7/8's aren't that egotistic.

You don't need to be cocky-funny. They are used to those types of guys because those are the only normal ones with the balls to approach. Just be confident and inspireing. Always be the exception to the rules. (negs don't hurt either.)