So I have been salsa dancing for a few years now, it started out as just a way to get out of my house but now I am real damn good. So I was dancing today and I saw this chick all pupils dilated, biting her lip and being a bit extra touchy feely while dancing. So after a dance I asked if she cared to sit and talk for a bit, leading her to a more isolated part of the club.

So I know of myself that any time I get to the spoken game part, I fail. I just have no fucking clue what I am doing, I can barely get 3 sentences into a conversation before a girl starts turning off. So I tried keeping it under a minute with this girl, learning shes from russia and a few other things.

I was looking up videos on how to hook up, and I saw this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhsirATfs_A

And I figured hmm, this chick seems to be sending a lot of body language signals I read about, why not try just going for it? I never really have done that, but I am getting desperate enough to try.

So I asked her if she likes art, and she said yea, and I said I wanted to show her a painting around the corner, which was deeper isolating in the club. We looked at it, and I told her the one thing I liked most about this painting... was that it was far away from everyone else where no one will see whats going on. Then I went in for the kiss.

I got the cheek. She seemed surprised that I made a move just like that. It seemed like it could have gone either way for a moment, as she said she didnt like that it was not isolated enough, so I asked if she wanted to go outside as it was a nice night out, and nah she started bailing. I let her slip away and I think she left the whole building.

So I dunno, I feel proud of myself for making a move, though it failed. I kept dancing and had a good time doing it. Wish I had got a makeout at least. Any tips and critique would be appreciated.

Forget about kissing for the time being.

Having a basic conversation seems to be more of a concern for you.

I am all for 100% non verbal game and it can be done. But if you make things intense by having no chat whatsoever then you're gonna lose girls.

You're good at salsa. Stop using it as a crutch, get social and finally good with people:
- read books
- improv
- approaching girls to start conversartions (learn some indirect openers)

You admit that you can't talk to women. What are you going to do about it? I was more much worse bro. I couldn't even look a girl in the eye let alone talk to one. I wouldn't even have the balls to dance with them. I am now a great conversationalist. I earned that by talking to 1000's of girls

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I got some severe issues though dude, I just don't get it. I read the game, mystery method, lots of articles and field reports, it just doesnt make sense to me. I am not sure what I am doing wrong when I talk, and I have no guide to help me. If I could figure it out myself I would have done it by now.

And to top it all off, I just plain hate talking to people. It feels like such a waste of time. I would rather be doing something constructive for myself like working out, homework or just plain enjoying my life somehow. Any time I got to talk to people im just like "how long do I have to do this before I get somewhere I cant stand it". I'd rather get punched in the face.

Where the hell am I supposed to go from here?

I guess you are introverted, not exactly 'severe issues'. but even introverted people can have a basic conversation. I could suggest to try some online dating but I think that would cause you more harm than good and I think to be good at non verbal game, you need to understand the basics with verbal 1st...

I too wish girls would magically float onto my cock. But I got to make it happen. You're gonna die one day. Don't use your introverted ways to hide your lack of motivation.

You have a few options:
1- Master online game and do most of the work via text
2- Master dance game/non verbal game
3- Man up and talk to women
4- Masturbate for the rest of your life

Which is it gonna be?

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well of course I would like to get good at 3, but i still cant figure this shit out by myself. I have been trying. I fail really hard and it costs me a lot. I need an example of someone succeeding in real time to emulate, and I can't find one. Text stories are just that, text, I need video or a live person to see. Everything else is not working.

Millions of vids on youtube bro.

You know you are just procrastinating, let's be real.

i am introverted too but I turn it off in the situation, i went from a virgin to nearly hooking up with nearly a 100 girls. It works, but I have poured my blood, sweat and tears into this skill.

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if it was just my choice I would have done it by now. I mean I gotta make a living too ya know? I dont know how you can afford to just travel around the world and not have to worry about getting random chicks pregnant but I am not in your position yet. It doesnt help that I can never find the right direction in this stuff, and girls are not forgiving or understanding. And for the record I have been looking around youtube, none of that is working either. I think a lot of it is deliberately misleading.

It can be misleading but that's like saying there are too many contradictive advice in the health world so there is no point in lifting weights or eating right

you're here for a reason. Don't fool yourself. You have desire to hook up with chicks, but you don't want to do what is required to do so. Not sure how else I can get you in the field.

You gotta Make a living huh?

You have the time for salsa and trying to kiss girls... I have a full time job. You make it sound like I travel on my rich daddies credit card hooking up with girls. I work, I live next to the clubs and pay premium rent and I am pro active at seduction. I have been involved in this since I was 23 - (currently 30)

P.s. You're worried about pregnancy's? Jeez. Worst case scenario bro. (Wear a condom) What if some drunk dude stabs you in a club too? Might as well stay inside and play video games I guess. It's the only way.

Any more excuses ?

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I am glad you have a perfect life but if it was that easy for everyone there would be no purpose for this forum. This doesnt seem to be getting anywhere, how about instead of continuing this, would you kindly point me towards some material that helped you with conversation?

No. Cos you're a twat

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Im just giddy with the time you have wasted here. In consideration of that I think its more likely that you dont actually have anything to help me with if your time is worth so little that youd spend so much not actually helping. Oh well, I bet someone else around here does.

Cool post bro. What I find amusing is that while you're stuck procrastinating and your action being at the mercy of a youtube video. I am lay next to a hot Latvian couch surfer whilst getting my dick sucked



Haterz gonna hate

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One thing's for sure, you can certainly write stories. Im so convinced about your chick who you could be boning instead of taking the time to take and post pics for me? Lol

I just wanna make you feel special.

And perhaps ignite a spark up your ass too, my intentions are good and I hope you take a step into changing your life. If not. More girls for me

Goodluck

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