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Why not push the limit with people you actually have a chance with?
Lesson learned: be bold. and push limits.
but how do i draw the line between plowing and harassment?
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Asking uninterested girls straight out, unless PROPERLY CALIBRATED, will not get you admiration, but more their disgust.
I disagree. Robert Greene says the mere fact that you had the sense of entitlement and balls to ask creates attraction - even if she says NO.
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Again, you shouldn't think about "countering". Said girl was obviously engrossed in whatever she was doing. You had little chance of breaking her state, and an even smaller chance of creating attraction.
Maybe that's a limiting belief. bro.
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If there was anything you could have done to break her state, it would NOT be in the words you said, but by creating an attractive and confident energy that would suck her in to your state (pun not intended) and pump her emotions.
Again, it's great that you're approaching, but you definitely should be looking to actually escalate and be willing to get physical rather than just approaching for approaching's sake
I agree. Lesson learned: do more kino
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but how do i draw the line between plowing and harassment?
Body language, tonality, and interest will tell you whether or not you should keep going.
If she is obviously interested in you but her ASD (anti slut defense) is kicking in then it may take some plowing.
Personal case in point - I once had a girl who I KNEW was interested in me. Touching, kissing, etc. But she wouldn't give me her number, denied it several times in fact. I kept plowing and she not only gave me her number but took me home that night. I knew she was interested so I kept plowing.
If a woman is clearly not interested, tells you clearly that she is not interested in you, in talking to you, or is busy, or walks away, and you keep "plowing" then it's obvious harassment.
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Asking uninterested girls straight out, unless PROPERLY CALIBRATED, will not get you admiration, but more their disgust.
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I disagree. Robert Greene says the mere fact that you had the sense of entitlement and balls to ask creates attraction - even if she says NO.
Please re-read the sentence ESPECIALLY two words I placed in all caps and think about it. I meant every word and I am 100% certain that this holds true
every single time. I'm not going to address it again, but you really should think about what i said there.
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Again, you shouldn't think about "countering". Said girl was obviously engrossed in whatever she was doing. You had little chance of breaking her state, and an even smaller chance of creating attraction.
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Maybe that's a limiting belief. bro.
Please read carefully and think about what I'm about to say.
It's not a limiting belief. Do you think that professional sports players look for the most difficult shots to make? No, they look for the best positions to make it EASIER FOR THEM TO SCORE. You can continually wasting your time on girls that are difficult to open, your choice. But if you really want to get laid, then stop turning pickup into a fucking obstacle course. Concentrate on the women that are EASY to close then work your way up. No mountain climber starts their first climb at Mount Everest, and likewise you should concentrate on women that are going to open RELATIVELY easy.
Am I saying you shouldn't challenge yourself? Absolutely not. I'm simply saying that REGULARLY approaching moving sets, approaching mixed sets where there's a high likelhood that the guy is romatically involved, or approaching sets who are absorbed WITHOUT HAVING THE BASICS DOWN is a quite route to frustration. Again, a basketball player isn't going to try to make a basket from half court just to challenge himself. If he really wants to make that basket, he's going to put himself in the best position possible. And for the time being, so should you.