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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:37 am 
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I decided to start using names of girls from my favorite show game of thrones in order to refer to people. I'll be doing this from now on.

At a small get together with three of my boys and we have the usually problem, no girls! So one of my friends hits up these two girls that he claimed to be "good girls." Once they get there my friend introduces them as Arya and Arya's friend. She said her name was Sansa but we all ignored her.
I asked " is Arya your first name and friend your last name?"
she smiled and said "yeah and 's is my middle name!"
I said " wow its a weird coincidence then you have a friend named arya. You wanna be my beer pong partner?"
She said yes but she had never played. This was perfect cause I was easily able to touch her shoulder, back and arm in order to emphasize points and explain rules of the game. During our seven game win streak we were talking, she was playing with her hair whenever we would talk and she laughed a lot. I found out she was from Massachusetts, made fun of her northern accent, only refered to her as Arya's friend for half the night but eventually called her by Sansa. But eventually she lost and went to stand by Arya. I talked to both of them awhile, asking how they knew each other, then I turned and mainly focused on sansa by saying their was no way it was her first time playing beer pong and she hustled us ( she was really good.) Eventually I sat down with her on a couch and we talked for a little but I didn't know what to say which became even more awkward cause the music stopped, everyone in the room went silent and she yelled "why is there an awkward silence!" not gonna lie I was embarrassed cause its a rookie mistake so I stepped up and played beer pong. Things were getting more active, their were a few times in the night were she tried talking to me but I would get distracted and ignore her. The first time I thought it was a DHV but I did it like 3-4 times, is that rude? It felt rude. After my game I sat down next to her and started talking to her about random things, this time I was doing good at creating multiple conversation threads. I think this is because I don't perform well under pressure, like when I feel like I'm being watched (this is true in many aspects of my life and i hope to conquer it.) We took shots, I talked to arya for awhile so she would be on my side but after about an hour my friend wanted to leave. I think he was trying to ditch the girls. But they walked out while we were talking and smoking cigarettes. Sansa was trying to figure out where we were going and they met us at Steak'n Shake. I saw an old friend from high school whos about a HB8 and I got a hug from her. We sat in a booth but moved after ordering so Arya could charge her phone. When we moved I sat across from my friend, then arya sat next to him but sansa said "I have to sit next to arya." I took a snap chat of the restraint, then I took a snap chat with sansa, after that she asked me to find her so she could add me on snap chat. I was talking to both of them until the food arrived but my friend was being awkward and not talking, I think this made the girls uncomfortable. We ate our food and didn't talk much then randomly my friend asked if the girls could take me home. They reluctantly accepted. During the car ride i asked about what brought her to Florida. She told me how she was living with a boyfriend who is in jail now and would have been homeless if her uncle didn't take her in. I said something like "its good that he has been supportive and loves her." They dropped me off and she told me she would hit me up on snap chat

Did good:
Most the night conversation flowed naturally
a lot of Kino
Talked about deep topics

Could've done better:
Talked to fill awkward silence, say anything
Had her give me her snap chat instead of giving her mine
Could've still asked for her number
Should've escalated Kino better

I do have a question. From my experience so far (still relatively new to pua) Id say talking about relationships both sexual and non sexual is a must do, but when a girl brings up a tuff situation like "I would've been homeless if I didn't come down hear." Would it be smart to dig deeper in order to understand her situation? On one hand it brings up negative emotions and struggle, but if she shares the information does it mean you make her feel comfortable enough to open up?


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 Post subject: Re: decent night
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:29 am 
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Hey Water Dandy,

Not sure there is a simple answer to your question… Until recently I was trying to avoid topics that bring negative emotions… That a slippery slope… But now I would tend to say that it all depends on the topic itself and perhaps even more important the way YOU will react… You gotta be ready to handle it properly or you are going to the disaster ah ah.. Negative emotions can create a strong bond but delays the progression: NEVER EVER try to kiss or fuck your target when in such circumstances (unless of course she asks for it!)… You have to go back to positive feelings and normal game before moving forward. And this could take a couple of hours or days, depending on the situation...

Now I am gonna tell you the story that changed my mind…

A couple of weeks ago i come across that Japanese cutie in a bar… I started talking to her and went kino quite quickly: I tried to kiss her after less than 30minutes, 90% sure in advance that she would not let me and just to move things forward fast… Ahah..
Here is the pitch from that point:

Her: “Hey… but I saw you last week kissing that other girl”
Me: “Ah ah ah… true… Well you know, actually SHE came and kissed me… I am free, she was cute, why not?”
Her: “That is Okay… ”
Me: “Hey, but about yourself? Are you not Jesse’s ex girlfriend?”
Her, freaking out: “Oh my god, how do you know that?”
Me, laughing hard inside: “Well, Jesse is a friend of my friend’s friend”
Her: “Oh my god, does everyone knows about it”
Me: “Not everyone but I do know”…

I dont remember the end of that thread…Nothing sour though! I went back to the bar get a drink and ignored her for 10-15m… At some point she came to me and my friend for small talk… I isolated her again outside to smoke… She come back to the story of her ex-boyfriend and the fact that everyone knew the story… There I was just vaguely playing her game: no fucking way I hear about that guy for an hour ah ah… Obviously she was very disturbed with me knowing the story and burst in tears!!!

Her, crying and confused: “That is so horrible… everyone knows”
Me, looking deep in her eyes, gently smiling and taking a warm and deep voice:
“Hey that s alright… not everybody knows and even though? who cares?”

She cried a bit more… Still smiling, deep-voice (nearly hypnotic… talking to her deep self at that time) and grabbing her hands, I repeated 1-2 more time “That is alright… Everything is fine”…

At that time, trying to kiss her again would have been the worst mistake EVER! So i did not and simply took her back inside the bar… She left a few minutes later… Since then, I took her out 1-2 times… Last time at lunch, she suggested to take the afternoon off together: that was a very clear invitation to go farther (and to my place)… I could not because I had to work and also because in the meantime I had fucked a neighbour and did not want to stumble upon her… But that is another story…

So I havent closed with the Japanese yet, but did set up a proper basis… I will meet her again soon… I have 3 weeks left because she is leaving the country… So I ll let you know the end of the story later!!

My 2 cents!

Cheers


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 Post subject: Re: decent night
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:13 pm 
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this is where actual routines are helpful. learn a few escalation routines and practice them. they are good for isolating moments. strawberry fields is a classic one.


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 Post subject: Re: decent night
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:43 am 
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Sounds like isolation wouldve been key and maybe trying to transition her to your home. You have to come up with an excuse.


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 Post subject: Re: decent night
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:36 pm 
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@Jasahi thank you, your answer made things a little bit clearer for me
& I've noticed isolation is a sticking point for me and I have begun working on it. I'm going to test that strawberry fields routine next time I go out, look up others to try and come up with a few on my own. I appreciate the help guys!


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