So before I post our conversation, I've ALWAYS struggled with text game and I need help.

I also don't want to take any credit for lines and such that I may have stolen.

Me: I've got some bad news for you, Christy. (almost always gets a response)

Her: Meh, it's all good. you don't have to tell me. I'm not looking for bad news. Thanks, though!

Me: Its important, I'll tell you anyways. Our divorce is finalized. I'm taking the gumball machine and toaster oven!

Her: HAHA. Good try. I have the signed pre-nup in my hand. You cant even have one gumball. And I used the toaster oven to knock out a drunk kid who accidentally walked into the house, so you can have whats left of it, sure.

Me: What?! Bullshit! If you don't give my damn gumball machine I'm gonna make a voodoo doll of you and put headphones on it and blare Justin Bieber all day!

Her: Empty threats. Plus, I don't totally hate female pop singers.

Me: Okay playing hardball eh? Well I've got your IKEA nightstand and gnomes held ransom...wanna talk gumball machine bizz now? (In her profile she said she had an attachment to her gnomes and nightstand which she made)

Her: All my gnomes are right in my lap...sigh...You're all talk and no walk. Authenticity is such sham these days. Tinder is suppose to be the paragon of truth. Kids these days.

Me: Ok check-mate. I like your style. I'm making you my new pretend internet girlfriend.

Her: Welcome aboard the ship of witticism, delayed responses, and trivial pursuits babe . You can tell all your friends I'm 5'7" with a huge rack. One of those is false, my shoe rack is pretty giant.

Me: Well babe, just as well I don't kiss til date 20 or put out til date 50...I might share a milkshake with 2 straws on date 3. Chocolate or vanilla?

Her: strawberry

Me: I'll compromise with strawberry if you promise not to eyeball me like a piece of meat. I'll even do the courtesy noses-touch thing with you.

Her: I wouldn't subject you to those patriatchially established steriotypical behaviors. I'm way too much of a feminist for that. Equality is the shit and whatnot. Besides eyeing you like a piece of meat would be bad news for you. I'm a vegetarian.

Me: Ok good, now that we are on the same page we can move forward. What's your number? (I feel like this is where I went wrong but I want your opinions)

Her: I always jersey #6 in sports. You? (smartass response)

Me: I was always #69 when I was a professional pillow fighter. Had to retire from too many broken bones.




And then I never heard back from her. Any thoughts?

Your texting is PERFECT for women who don't have an interest in you and who do not want to meet you.

BUT, if you want to ever meet these women in person, you need to change your style of texting. You will get LESS responses but you will get more LEADS that end in a meet or sex.

Your texting is a dream for attention whores. But at the end of the day she won't meet and is not interested.

Lose the tacky lines, texting is merely a tool to set the meet. I made a recent lay report, read it and pay attention to my no nonsense style of communication. Hope that helped. Good luck.

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THIS times 1000.

Your text game is alright but like Mr.Ruthless stated it is a dream for attention whores. What you want to do instead is screen out the women who are least likely to have sex with you.

This will sometimes mean being blunt/letting a girl know that you like her in a sexual way. This will also mean being much more forward in your text interactions with women and scheduling a date as quickly as possible.

Do this and you will start to see your interactions with women take on a whole new light.

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Ruthless and Thomas are right on. For anyone reading this. DO NOT text conversations. texting is only for meeting and logistics. it doesn't hurt to be a little clever if you must but stick to the purpose. same goes for phone. to get with a girl face to face that's when you game. you don't game online, text, or phone. they are merely temporary substitutes for when you get to see the woman in person. if you try to give them what they need through text other methods they don't have to see you. once you are in a relationship anything goes but until then stick to the basics (old school meet, greet, game).

As a rule of thumb, I don't text with women BEFORE the first date. I can text after we already meet, but texting
is the worst way of communicating if you want to set up a date.

You said this happened on Tinder, but most guys do the same thing if they get a phone number.

Instead of calling, they text. Because it's a lower-anxiety way of getting in touch.

From that you need to understand why women have a certain disrespect for guys who spend too much time
texting.

First, they see it as a no-balls behaviour, and second, you get perceived as a guy who spends all day
texting and doesn't have much else to do.

In your case, I would cut the communication WAY before, instead of getting cute with it.

As a rule of thumb, the more you think the communication is cute and awesome, the less interested
the woman probably is.

Keep your texts short, and remove cuteness. If you can, get her on her phone and talking with you
as soon as possible.

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It seems like all the literature these days advises you to use texting strictly to set up dates and not to game or build rapport. However, when I try to practice this and ask girls out for coffee, for a drink, whatever, I keep getting either a "maybe" or no response.

Then I think back to my last two f-closes, and they both began with days of playful bantering and teasing through text.

Is anyone succeeding in setting up Tinder dates without any playful text game? If so, please offer tips or examples.

Tinder is for hookups. Few people find girlfriends on Tinder. Girls know this. They're on Tinder to hook up - just like guys.

Is every girl on the app like this? Of course not - but lots of them are.

Because of this a lot of rapport building often isn't necessary. Particularly if you're good looking.

Looks matter. A lot.

Nothing wrong with some texts, man. Don't make it a goal or a guideline to think you need to #close or get a date in a few messages. Do what works for you. If you end up closing, then it doesn't matter if it took you 40 messages or 4.

If you're good at texting, use that to your advantage. If you suck at it, use it for sorting out logistics only.

If you're good looking - use that to your advantage and shorten the banter window, cause she's more likely to want to meet up based on your looks anyway.

Simple. Don't complicate your life and your game with theory telling you what you should be doing. Figure out what works for you and do that.

This was when it goes wrong. The bait text is so transparent. A person who needs to bait to get responses is needy = DLV.

Even a boring 'Hey how is it going?' would of been much better since you're not transparent.

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